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Yeah, I remember reading In Supertrax or Snowgoer that they like the Apex seating position more than the Vector because it is a little higher due to the seat being a bit firmer...however, at a dealer a few months ago, I sat on a Apex and Vector next to each other and had a friend eyeball where...

This is the reason I went to Ski Doo…I loved my Vector and Apex…but…I am 6'1" and I feel like I am squatting when I ride it! They need to add 2-3" to the seat for it to be comfortable for me. This reason…the seat…is the ONLY reason I continue to ride a Ski Doo (they are a pretty good sled...

I switched to a '12 Doo last year after wrecking my Vector for ONE reason…SEATING POSITION. I like the new suspension, always loved the Deltabox chassis. Can someone tell me…did they do anything with the seat height on the Vector? It is just too short for my height! Makes me squat while...

As for +1 seat, yeah, I know about it , but not a good option. One up sleds not meant for two. Suspension can't handle it and it makes for a rough ride. Buddy of mine tried it on his 120" and his GF is tiny - was awful for her. And him!

Thanks again for your input. The TF does indeed have power steering. What makes it different than GT is the 151" track and wider skis for off trail use. It also has a bigger bumper and trailer hitch, but those are non-factors. I don't think the TF has tipped rails...it has an articulated track...

Want it to do what I am basically doing with the GSX now, just a little slower…groomed trails…50% riding through the woods on 10-12 ft wide trails…50% mix of forest/seasonal roads, fields, rail beds, 2-3,000 miles per season. I own 16 acres with trails, like to bomb around there a little bit...

I am starting to agree with you. I have been riding "traditional" sleds for a long time, and am looking for something different. The TF definitely is different. Plus, I sat on one at a sled show and it fit me like a glove. I have not completely given up yet, but the reality is setting in...

Thanks for the input so far. Hope others have more to add. How much do these rigs weigh?

Hi Everyone - I am looking at a Yamaha Venture TF with the wider skis and longer (151") track. I ride in upstate NY, in a lake effect snow zone that gets 200" of snow per year. We ride trails almost exclusively, and go off trail only on our own property and neighboring properties. 95% of...