06 Rage jumps left and right

[ragintexan]

My new 06 Rage RS jumps left and right while on a groomed trail. It is as if it cannot make its own groove in the trail. Is this what people call darting?
What is the best and least costly fix for this problem?
My new sled only has 40 miles on it. I mainly ride trails at moderate speeds.
Thanks for your help!

 

[hondo]

Ragintexan,

Sounds like darting to me.

Skidoo Precision skis work wonders for these sleds. You can pick them up pretty cheap too! Most Doo riders are going to the new Pilot ski.

Some grinding is required on the Precision metal ski shims to make the skis fit on the Yamaha ski spindle.

In addition:

If you grind the front "V" part of Skidoo rubber flat and grind down the rear "V" and leave 1/4" you will have a built in ski shim. You will have more bite on the rear of the carbides and reduce darting even more.

Insert the Skidoo rubber back into the Precision ski slot (shim goes to the rear) and use the Yamaha rubber normally, it will sit on the top of the Skidoo rubber. Connect everything using a Skidoo bolt.

Yamaha and Skidoo bolts are the same diameter however, the Skidoo bolt fits the Precision ski better. Job is done.

This set up works great for me!

If you want to go more expensive Simmons skis are "top shelf". Skidoo actually copied Simmons design and sued Skidoo for a Patent Infringement. Simmons collected too!

Hope this helps!

 

[DaJudge]

The way I stopped the "darting" is by replacing the stock carbide. I put a set of Stud Boy's Duce bars with 6 inch carbide. A lot of the guys are also using Woodies duallys.

 

[Len Todd]

4" Duallies stopped both my sleds from darting.

 

[LoneViper]

I'll tell you, I have been reading all season about people shimming their skis. I thought to myself what a joke. I decided well maybe so I cut a couple shims for the back of each ski bumper and put them in. Well it works so before you do anything shim those skis and see what happens. I bet the darting is cut by 90% if not totally eleminated.

 

[Oak Hill]

Shiming will stop the darting but also increase steering effort. Doolies or deuce bars are a great fix for darting, the sled will rail with them and you will have light steering. Fixed. Just my 2 cents!

 

[Groomerdriver]

Shiming will stop the darting but also increase steering effort. Doolies or deuce bars are a great fix for darting, the sled will rail with them and you will have light steering. Fixed. Just my 2 cents!

what he ^^^^^^^^^^ said. I've got 6" Doolies to go along with 144 studs.

 

[ragintexan]

Thanks

Thanks for the advice. I have been reading a lot about shimming and people use anything from leather,rubber,teflon and bergstrom shims.
How does anyone decide which is best? Is it trial and error?

 

[Steely Dan]

I think you want a material that will not compress and is the right thickness. I used Bergstrom triple points and his shims for my sled. I put woodies doolies on my wifes sled and it made a huge difference. I haven't shimmed that sled yet but plan to cut shims from a broken drive belt. The belt delaminated and broke and the outer layer is about the right thickness.

 

[Indy]

You can buy 1"X1/4"X12" aluminum flat stock from Lowes. Works perfect.

 

[Wilson]

I thank oak hill for his in put ,I have the shims in mine and it does do wonders for darting ,but I now find the steering very heavy .I will try that fix next season .

 

[PAR III]

I have an Apex that darts around; how do you shim it?

 

[Flipper]

I ran the Doolies last year and they work great for eliminating the darting. However, I found that they tended to push in the corners.

I am running 9" Studboy shaper bars this year and what a difference. Much better in the corners.

I did experiene darting. I used the shim trick on my Viper with good success so I did the same to my Vector. It worked well. I still have some darting (mainly when slowing for stop signs) but very minimal.

 

[MOTOWN SPEEDFREEK]

diffently darting,put some 6In. shaper bars on it!!!