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I have the suspension pretty well set except the front ski preasure is way too light. It feels like the front ski's are floating when on a straight stretch or on ice. I can steer it with 2 fingers Corners excelent and it does go where you point it just floaty feeling.
I feel I need a little adjustment to correct this;should I look at turning the centre shock up a little or adjusting the front float shocks ( I have 65 lbs now in them). Any help is appreciated.
I feel I need a little adjustment to correct this;should I look at turning the centre shock up a little or adjusting the front float shocks ( I have 65 lbs now in them). Any help is appreciated.
ahicks
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Turning the front skid spring up is going the wrong way. That'll unload it even more.
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Get them down below 40 # ! Yes 40. I keep the front that low and make sure your control rod nuts aren't too far down on the rod. You'll have way too much ski lift. I keep mine so I just can see the RED lines on both rods. I also have pulled the limiters up one hole and really loosened the front skid shock . Some guys on here have brought the Floats down to 25# and have seen great results too. If yo do bring them down that low make sure you have a good set of skegs, like Bergstroms and maybe try using his shim and saver method? I do and love it!
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Sounds like you have a great handling sled. Front end floats and yet still goes where you point it. I would lower the front floats a bit and just try to get used to the ride. Try making changes but only one at a time and record where you are so you can go back. Let us know how you make out.
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Thanks everyone for all you advice.
You definetly want to back off spring pressure on center shock. Mines backed off till shock spring is loose then tightened just enough so it doesnt rattle or move around. The only thing i dont agree with is the front float pressure. I tried around 30psi but found that runs these shocks too far down in their travel. Your getting into the stiffer progressive part of the shocks travel. I tried around 60 psi and i thought it rode much better. Felt like i had more usable travel this way. I do agree the sled is more tipply with this setup, but i can live with it.Just my opinion,just try different setups for you.I also run my rear clicker only about 4 clicks out. Yes you have to deal with the bottoming but the ride is very good except for the really big woops.Run it any higher i found the rear just wasnt stroking enough and ride is terrible, plus it still will bottom anyway. Just try to prepare for the really big ones.
ahicks
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<<<<I also run my rear clicker only about 4 clicks out. Yes you have to deal with the bottoming but the ride is very good except for the really big woops.Run it any higher i found the rear just wasnt stroking enough and ride is terrible, plus it still will bottom anyway. Just try to prepare for the really big ones.>>>>
You're running 4 clicks out to get a good ride? Maybe I'm doing something wrong then. I thought that 20 clicks out was softest, all the way in firmest? Not sure about which way you are going (softer/firmer) with adjustment when you say higher?
I agree completely with working towards the longest suspension stroke possible - and using it as frequently as possible. Highest ride height that will work for you (something around 3.5" sag?), and soft shock settings are the way to fly to do that, or maybe more correctly, as soft as possible yet stiff enough to prevent bottoming too fequently.
Using the coupling/transfer adjustment to "catch" (couple) the suspension just prior to bottoming is a good way to keep from running shock any stiffer than necessary - and allows the shock setting to easily control ride for the conditions you're in. Start soft, then set stiffer (as much as conditions demand) when the going gets rough. If the shock can't control bottoming - next time you get a chance set you coupling adjustment to couple sooner in the suspension stroke (run the nuts up a little higher). Seems to work for me. FWIW.
You're running 4 clicks out to get a good ride? Maybe I'm doing something wrong then. I thought that 20 clicks out was softest, all the way in firmest? Not sure about which way you are going (softer/firmer) with adjustment when you say higher?
I agree completely with working towards the longest suspension stroke possible - and using it as frequently as possible. Highest ride height that will work for you (something around 3.5" sag?), and soft shock settings are the way to fly to do that, or maybe more correctly, as soft as possible yet stiff enough to prevent bottoming too fequently.
Using the coupling/transfer adjustment to "catch" (couple) the suspension just prior to bottoming is a good way to keep from running shock any stiffer than necessary - and allows the shock setting to easily control ride for the conditions you're in. Start soft, then set stiffer (as much as conditions demand) when the going gets rough. If the shock can't control bottoming - next time you get a chance set you coupling adjustment to couple sooner in the suspension stroke (run the nuts up a little higher). Seems to work for me. FWIW.
Turning clicker clockwise will stiffen ride, counterclockwise will soften. You can see I've set mine on the soft side for best ride. I agree with your thoughts on coupling as it does stiffen ride when both shocks compress together. But i believe the ride suffers from coupling too soon also. Ive got about 3 threads showing on rods now. Seems to keep skis planter pretty well and still keep soft ride. Good luck.
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Giddy up,
Before you determine that you need to make an adjustment, look at how the sled behaves. If you have handling issues because of the light ski pressure then you should take some pressure out of the front of the skid. Just remember that changin one aspect of the suspension will affect just about everything else, so be prepared to chase your setup a little bit more. If you don't have any issue with pushing, I would say don't touch it. Many people here do everything they can to get a light steering feel without push, so if those two things are fine, enjoy it!
Before you determine that you need to make an adjustment, look at how the sled behaves. If you have handling issues because of the light ski pressure then you should take some pressure out of the front of the skid. Just remember that changin one aspect of the suspension will affect just about everything else, so be prepared to chase your setup a little bit more. If you don't have any issue with pushing, I would say don't touch it. Many people here do everything they can to get a light steering feel without push, so if those two things are fine, enjoy it!
