BLUEBALLER
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did they change the warmers and increase heat output for 09? anyone measure resistance yet.
my 08's measured 7.2 ohms each and are wired in parallel for a total of 3.62 ohms.
just ordered some hotgrips which are 3 ohms each. I'm planning on wiring them in parallel into the stock harnesses.
Only problem is they'll run a little to hot with the toggle on 100%.
Here's the info for anyone else planning to add aftermarket grips.
nytro stock
left - 7.3 ohms
right - 7.2 ohms
parallel - 3.62 ohms
total = 54W @ 14V
27 W ea grip
amps = 3.86
hotgrips - parallel
left - 3.0 ohms
right - 3.0 ohms
parallel - 1.5 ohms
total = 130W @ 14V
65W ea grip
amps = 9.29
nytro w/ 06 apex bars
left - 2.2 ohms
right 2.2 ohms
parallel - 1.1 ohms
total = 178W @14V
89W ea grip
amps = 12.71 YIKES!!!!
Better get an inline power resistor(3 ohm for each grip) or risk burning up that ECU with 12 amps going through it. Or, run your handwarmers with only 2 or 3 bars showing.
2 questions
- did they lower resistance of the handwarmers for 09?
- the guys that ran 06 apex grips last season, how many bars could you run before the rubber started to melt!!
my 08's measured 7.2 ohms each and are wired in parallel for a total of 3.62 ohms.
just ordered some hotgrips which are 3 ohms each. I'm planning on wiring them in parallel into the stock harnesses.
Only problem is they'll run a little to hot with the toggle on 100%.
Here's the info for anyone else planning to add aftermarket grips.
nytro stock
left - 7.3 ohms
right - 7.2 ohms
parallel - 3.62 ohms
total = 54W @ 14V
27 W ea grip
amps = 3.86
hotgrips - parallel
left - 3.0 ohms
right - 3.0 ohms
parallel - 1.5 ohms
total = 130W @ 14V
65W ea grip
amps = 9.29
nytro w/ 06 apex bars
left - 2.2 ohms
right 2.2 ohms
parallel - 1.1 ohms
total = 178W @14V
89W ea grip
amps = 12.71 YIKES!!!!
Better get an inline power resistor(3 ohm for each grip) or risk burning up that ECU with 12 amps going through it. Or, run your handwarmers with only 2 or 3 bars showing.
2 questions
- did they lower resistance of the handwarmers for 09?
- the guys that ran 06 apex grips last season, how many bars could you run before the rubber started to melt!!
apltx08
TY 4 Stroke God
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Vector1
Expert
I don't think they changed anything yet. I am thinking about doing the same thing you are doing. When are you going to install the HotGrips? Let us know how it works afterwards. Are you going to leave the stock thumb warmer? The people who designs these sleds must not ride in the cold, because the stock warmers are worthless.
sledhead317
Veteran
You think that they could fix this problem after this many years of these hand warmers with the lack of heat.....Yamaha get with it
BLUEBALLER
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Vector1 said:I don't think they changed anything yet. I am thinking about doing the same thing you are doing. When are you going to install the HotGrips? Let us know how it works afterwards. Are you going to leave the stock thumb warmer? The people who designs these sleds must not ride in the cold, because the stock warmers are worthless.
Hotgrips got ordered a few days ago, and I'll probably get them installed in a week or two. Thumbwarmer will stay the same.
I ripped off the oem heat elements and was pretty shocked at how flimsy they were. NO insulation between them and the handlebars. The handlebars are basically acting like a HUGE heatsink robbing away any little heat the elements were putting out. Gone are the days of actual heated handgrips.
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Vector1
Expert
Handwarmers and skis, Yamaha seems to be the only one of the four sled makers that can't get it right.
apltx08
TY 4 Stroke God
How about if we FOAMED our bars...does it seem to help, I know some guys on here have how about some input.
Vector1
Expert
I tried that and I was still stopping to warm my hands with the exhaust.
RADNYTROFX
Extreme
here is the post about the 06 bars and wiring. i just bought the 06 bars and they work mint. i started my sled with the 08 bars on 10 setting and they were cold. i put the 06 bars on 4 setting and the bars were hot. the link below says the key to hot hands is the wiring harness which is not true for 07 and 08 sleds. the key is the 06 bars.
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... rip+warmer
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... rip+warmer
Goddo
Expert
I'd definitely welcome some sort of fix for 08 Nytros, without having to install old bars.
There must be a way to boost power?
There must be a way to boost power?
RADNYTROFX
Extreme
ya, it would be great for yamaha to have a fix but if they are like ski doo was, dont plan on it. maybe they will, i do not want to wait on them for a maybe. my warmers did not work at all, nothing. guesss we can wait and see ;-)
BLUEBALLER
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RADNYTROFX said:here is the post about the 06 bars and wiring. i just bought the 06 bars and they work mint. i started my sled with the 08 bars on 10 setting and they were cold. i put the 06 bars on 4 setting and the bars were hot. the link below says the key to hot hands is the wiring harness which is not true for 07 and 08 sleds. the key is the 06 bars.
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... rip+warmer
I figured you couldn't run them past half way. Thanks for confirming. I'm still going to add some power resistors to bring the resistance values more in line with the oem handwarmers. Then I'll be able to run the toggle all the way up to 100% without fear of blowing anything. ie - ECU
still I'm curious if they changed the resistance values on the 09's or not.
marsh14
Expert
I have never rode an 08 but when I test rode the xtx, the person before me had them on as high as they would go and I couldn't even hang on to the bars, they were so hot. I turned them off. It was about 40-45 out that day too.
RADNYTROFX
Extreme
ya, i think that was the same xtx i rode in old forge when it was 30 outside. keep your fingures crossed that yamaha changes the 09's.
Grimm
TY 4 Stroke God
Blueballer, once you get the HotGrips installed, let us know how easy they were to install. How well do they adapt to the curved handlebars?
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