saskattakman
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thinking about switching over to amsoil 4 stroke 0w40 in my sled....has approx 2200 kms on it....is this going to hurt anything....also will i loose any performance going from the 30 to 40 wieght??
Used it for over 15,000 miles between my two RX-1's. Never had an issue and noticed no performance loss. Will be putting it in the Apex the end of this season. IMO better than Yamalube and CHEAPER!


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saskattakman,
Yamaha now has a fully synthetic 0W40 as well.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/yamalube.aspx
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Yamaha now has a fully synthetic 0W40 as well.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/yamalube.aspx
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I also use the amsoil ow40 for 5 years in both my sleds with no issues.
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just checked out some prices....yam semi syn $13/L yam 0W40 Synthetic $28/ L and the amsoil is $14/ L....you guys that are running amsoil its the 4 stroke stuff right??? i found some 0 W 30 amsoil syn...would this be better or not much difference thanks
I'm using the 4 stroke oil only because I bought a couple cases years ago and that's what the Amsoil dealer said was what they recommended at that time. You can use either 0W30 or 0W40 and it doesn't have to say 4 stroke. I know a lot of members on here use Mobil 1 with good success.
I've used the AMSOIL in 3 RX1's since 2003. I have noticed no negatives, and much improved cold weather starting. I have enough for 1 more year, and then I'll probably switch to the new Yami lube just to support my dealer. It's probably AMSOIL in a Yami package!
40w is good i use it in the quad year round,also good in the cold when i plow the driveway,i stick with a 20w in the sled,give's me a little more HP i think. 

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I just bought a few quarts at Canadian Tire. They had raised the price by $4/quart on their system, but didn't update the labeled price. Needless to say, I got the low price and the next time I was in, the labels had been changed.
I can't believe they jacked up the price from $10 to $14/quart!
I can't believe they jacked up the price from $10 to $14/quart!
Grimm said:I just bought a few quarts at Canadian Tire. They had raised the price by $4/quart on their system, but didn't update the labeled price. Needless to say, I got the low price and the next time I was in, the labels had been changed.
I can't believe they jacked up the price from $10 to $14/quart!
Thats where I bought mine but not anymore. Peavey Mart has the old prices at least so far.
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I'm also like to know if performance would be better if I use Series 2000 synthetic 0W-30 Amsoil motor oil instead of the 0W-40 synthetic Amsoil grade. The 0W30 grade list that its for 4 stroke motorcycles, I take it will be the same for 4 stroke sleds? Also would Amsoil series 2000 chain case oil be the way to go. I'm pretty limited to what I can buy since I will be ordering from the Royal Distributing catalogue.Thanks for any info.
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Lot's of posts about motor oil. I use Mobil 1 for years, in everything..cars, trucks, tractors, lawn mowers, chippers, etc etc...and all the four strokes to date. Now they have 0-30 at Wal Mart...26 bucks for 5 quarts. Our Fords call for 5-20, but I now use the 0-30 in everything.
I reviewed the specifics between Castrol, Amsoil and Mobil 1. Amsoil and Mobil seem to be very close in most categories. Remember what Amsoil says about multiweights...they use polymers to thicken up at temperature to make them pour slower, thus the higher number. Only problem is polymers don't lubricate.
So I use the closer multi weights now, based on Amsoil's literature.
I reviewed the specifics between Castrol, Amsoil and Mobil 1. Amsoil and Mobil seem to be very close in most categories. Remember what Amsoil says about multiweights...they use polymers to thicken up at temperature to make them pour slower, thus the higher number. Only problem is polymers don't lubricate.
So I use the closer multi weights now, based on Amsoil's literature.
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There really is not much difference between the series 2000 and the formula 4- stroke. the series 2000 has friction modifiers , which some claim they prefer in thier oil but the modifiers are specifically designed for cars and only benefit MPG or MPH in fractions of tenth. Mean while, the Formula 4-stroke has additives that are specifically designed for the 4-stroke motors. Also, A 4-stoke motor is a 4-stroke motor, there is no difference in the inner workings of the motor from a sled to a bike to a four-wheelerblackhawk said:I'm also like to know if performance would be better if I use Series 2000 synthetic 0W-30 Amsoil motor oil instead of the 0W-40 synthetic Amsoil grade. The 0W30 grade list that its for 4 stroke motorcycles, I take it will be the same for 4 stroke sleds? Also would Amsoil series 2000 chain case oil be the way to go. I'm pretty limited to what I can buy since I will be ordering from the Royal Distributing catalogue.Thanks for any info.
Before ordering from Royal, Check out my website and compair oprices! It might be worth a look? www.ssoiltech.com
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For all those who have ever wondered about what type or wieght of oil to use.... I hope this will help!
The Society of Automotive Engineers(SAE) have established 12 different viscosity grades. vicosity grades will determine the oils dynamic viscosity and kinematic viscosity.
the dynamic viscosity is the first # you see usually followed by a W , which , yes , you can associate that # with winter to help you think of how it performs in cold weather.the SAE has determined 6 grades of "winter" formulas beginning with 0W and working up to 25W in 5 point incriments. what they are measureing with this is the lubricants ability to pump 60,000centipointe units with no yield stress at certain temps. for ex.
0W = 60,000 cP @-40*C
5W = 60,000 cP @-35*C
10W = 60,000 cP @ -30*C and so on till 25Wwhich is 60,000 cP@-15
basically the smaller the # the better protection for colder temps.
the next # measures the lubricants ability to pour or its kinemetric viscosity, which is measured by the time it takes an oil to pour out of a container. the temp. is always consistant at 100*C (212*F)
this is #ered from 20 -60 in 10 pt incriments and is measured using sabolt universal second(sus) for ex.
sae20@100*c will empty in min.5.6sus and a max. of9.3sus
30 = 9.3sus - 12.5sus
40 = 12.5sus- 16.3sus
60 = 21.9sus - 26.1sus
in other words the oil will empty out of the container just by pouring in 5.6 seconds (roughly) to 9.3 seconds
remember you do not want your oil viscosity to thin in hot temps. because you will lose you ability to lubricate and protect your engine.
a good ex is this. a truck driver leaves florida with a load of oranges heading for minnesota, in fla. he runs SAE 30 oil because of the ambient temp. in fla. when he (or she) get to min. the driver finds the SAE 30 is to viscious or thick to handle the sub zero temps and is having a hard time starting the vehicle. after changing oil to an SAE 15W the starting problem is solved and he can continue on. when he gets back to fla. he finds the SAE 15W is to thin due to the high temps. in fla. therefore the lubricant can not protect the engine like it should.
thus, they have made multi viscosity oils. the point is not that a certain oil is thicker or thinner because under different circumstances they will all flow the same it just depends on the temp. of the product.
how many times have we been in the north woods and the temp. has been -30* one day and 30* the next? i've seen it! make sure you choose an oil that is best for your climate and has a broad viscosity range to cover those sudden changes in weather!
basically the ultimate protection for any motor would be a 0W-60 but the viscosity range of that oil is nearly impossible to achieve
i run amsoil 0W-40 four stroke in mine and i love it!
www.SSOilTech.com
The Society of Automotive Engineers(SAE) have established 12 different viscosity grades. vicosity grades will determine the oils dynamic viscosity and kinematic viscosity.
the dynamic viscosity is the first # you see usually followed by a W , which , yes , you can associate that # with winter to help you think of how it performs in cold weather.the SAE has determined 6 grades of "winter" formulas beginning with 0W and working up to 25W in 5 point incriments. what they are measureing with this is the lubricants ability to pump 60,000centipointe units with no yield stress at certain temps. for ex.
0W = 60,000 cP @-40*C
5W = 60,000 cP @-35*C
10W = 60,000 cP @ -30*C and so on till 25Wwhich is 60,000 cP@-15
basically the smaller the # the better protection for colder temps.
the next # measures the lubricants ability to pour or its kinemetric viscosity, which is measured by the time it takes an oil to pour out of a container. the temp. is always consistant at 100*C (212*F)
this is #ered from 20 -60 in 10 pt incriments and is measured using sabolt universal second(sus) for ex.
sae20@100*c will empty in min.5.6sus and a max. of9.3sus
30 = 9.3sus - 12.5sus
40 = 12.5sus- 16.3sus
60 = 21.9sus - 26.1sus
in other words the oil will empty out of the container just by pouring in 5.6 seconds (roughly) to 9.3 seconds
remember you do not want your oil viscosity to thin in hot temps. because you will lose you ability to lubricate and protect your engine.
a good ex is this. a truck driver leaves florida with a load of oranges heading for minnesota, in fla. he runs SAE 30 oil because of the ambient temp. in fla. when he (or she) get to min. the driver finds the SAE 30 is to viscious or thick to handle the sub zero temps and is having a hard time starting the vehicle. after changing oil to an SAE 15W the starting problem is solved and he can continue on. when he gets back to fla. he finds the SAE 15W is to thin due to the high temps. in fla. therefore the lubricant can not protect the engine like it should.
thus, they have made multi viscosity oils. the point is not that a certain oil is thicker or thinner because under different circumstances they will all flow the same it just depends on the temp. of the product.
how many times have we been in the north woods and the temp. has been -30* one day and 30* the next? i've seen it! make sure you choose an oil that is best for your climate and has a broad viscosity range to cover those sudden changes in weather!
basically the ultimate protection for any motor would be a 0W-60 but the viscosity range of that oil is nearly impossible to achieve
i run amsoil 0W-40 four stroke in mine and i love it!
www.SSOilTech.com
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We use 0w40 in 6 apex's, for years, all good !!!
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