AKrider
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An update... this IQR is easily the best handing & riding sled I've ever owned. It is light, tough and just does what you want in the bumps and turns. I rode my Nytro last weekend (for the first time in weeks) and had a hard time getting used to the heavy front end. After about a 1/2 hour I was used to it again. The power is really good at sea level, I have no complaints about the motor. It is too bad the chassis and handling is so bad. My Vector was a better all around performing sled. The only thing the Nytro does better is go though the bumps and that is strictly due to ergonomics and body position. The Nytro shocks are not very good quality. Ride something better, even after the Nytro's Soqi's have been revalved and rebuilt and you will understand.
The Nytro is a higher quality, better built sled than my Polaris, that is obvious anytime I start working on them. But the Polaris is a more simple sled that takes less time & effort to do pretty much anything. Even though I bought it strictly for racing here in Alaska, the light weight is noticeable and addictive. From just picking it up and moving it in my shop to picking it up and getting it unstuck, the difference between it and the Nytro is dramatic. Just riding it off trail and being able to sidehill with so little effort is huge!.
I forgot about how fun it was to ride a light weight sled. Weight plays a huge factor in sleds. While I love my reliable 4-stoke motors, a $6 Mikuni jetting slide rule along with some main jets and time have proven to keep this race sled easily tuned. This is the first time that I've thought Ski-doo was onto something with their eTech DI system. Polaris is able to sell '12 consumer sleds using a less sophisticated system that still injects oil into the crankcase to lube the bearings. I guess now that I tried out 4-strokes for an extended time and riding the same sled year after year gets old, I guess I don't see the 3,000-6,000 mile limit on a 2-stroke motor as such a bad thing. Either rebuild it or buy new, light weight is really nice if you are into performance.
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If anyone is interested, here are some great photos of the new IQ 600R race sled. The pics were just released yesterday. If you've never seen a race sled up close, here is what they look like. Basically a stripped to the bone, minimalist, snowmachine made to do one thing, win races. This will be the 3rd race sled I've owned, with the first two being Ski-doo's. It definitely does not have Yamaha's fit and finish standards.
Check out this dash. I remember how upset guys were with the fit and finish of their Trail Tanks on their Nytro's. The IQR is very functional but crude.
The Nytro is a higher quality, better built sled than my Polaris, that is obvious anytime I start working on them. But the Polaris is a more simple sled that takes less time & effort to do pretty much anything. Even though I bought it strictly for racing here in Alaska, the light weight is noticeable and addictive. From just picking it up and moving it in my shop to picking it up and getting it unstuck, the difference between it and the Nytro is dramatic. Just riding it off trail and being able to sidehill with so little effort is huge!.
I forgot about how fun it was to ride a light weight sled. Weight plays a huge factor in sleds. While I love my reliable 4-stoke motors, a $6 Mikuni jetting slide rule along with some main jets and time have proven to keep this race sled easily tuned. This is the first time that I've thought Ski-doo was onto something with their eTech DI system. Polaris is able to sell '12 consumer sleds using a less sophisticated system that still injects oil into the crankcase to lube the bearings. I guess now that I tried out 4-strokes for an extended time and riding the same sled year after year gets old, I guess I don't see the 3,000-6,000 mile limit on a 2-stroke motor as such a bad thing. Either rebuild it or buy new, light weight is really nice if you are into performance.
Original Thread
If anyone is interested, here are some great photos of the new IQ 600R race sled. The pics were just released yesterday. If you've never seen a race sled up close, here is what they look like. Basically a stripped to the bone, minimalist, snowmachine made to do one thing, win races. This will be the 3rd race sled I've owned, with the first two being Ski-doo's. It definitely does not have Yamaha's fit and finish standards.
Check out this dash. I remember how upset guys were with the fit and finish of their Trail Tanks on their Nytro's. The IQR is very functional but crude.
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The retro graphics are cool on the newer Polaris's. Good luck with the sled and in racing.
I think it looks sweet. Maybe I was a poo guy for just too many years LOL. Really the only reason that I went with a yami this time was quality 4 stroke and value holder. I still think that the rest of the yami sled is no better than a poo, but yamis engines are definately #1. Also the cluches hold up much better...but I beleive that is because the engines are much smoother. AKRIDER, good luck with that thing, and I beleive it will be better than your doos. I do hope that fuel milage is not a concearn in your races however, because poo is NOT known for good milage.
AKrider
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Fuel milage is a big issue and I've already got a 10 gallon Trail Tank coming in for it. The Nytro had an advantage in MPG back in '08 and part of '09 when the Trail Tank became available. That advantage went away when oversized tanks became available for the IQ Dragons and eTechs. Up here we can run larger tanks for XC racing, including the Iron Dog. I think the USCC guys can as well but I'm not positive about that.
The engine, clutches and belt in my Nytro was definitely an advantage as they are bullet proof. It really bums me out that Yamaha hasn't upgraded the Nytro because there is a lot of potential and great things about the sled. It is such a shame they continue to produce the same thing year after year and not address its short comings.
The engine, clutches and belt in my Nytro was definitely an advantage as they are bullet proof. It really bums me out that Yamaha hasn't upgraded the Nytro because there is a lot of potential and great things about the sled. It is such a shame they continue to produce the same thing year after year and not address its short comings.
rindtj
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Sweet sled! But the new Cat looks meaner...
AKrider
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The new Cat is nice! I really like that it came stock with a 12 gallon tank and 1.25 track. I'm not sold on the two sided color scheme, I really thought their sled would come with the retro graphics.
It is a good sign to see that Doo and Cat are now running consumer based race sleds. People can identify with the sled that wins races when it looks the same as what they ride. The part I don't understand is why a consumer based race sled like the Doo RS 600 costs way more than a limited build race sled like the Polaris. The new Cat was $700 more than the Polaris but around $1600 less than a Doo. Please don't ask me what they cost because you enter into an agreement with the manufacturer to keep the price confidential. Only reason I know what the Doo costs is because it was posted on Doo-talk.
It is a good sign to see that Doo and Cat are now running consumer based race sleds. People can identify with the sled that wins races when it looks the same as what they ride. The part I don't understand is why a consumer based race sled like the Doo RS 600 costs way more than a limited build race sled like the Polaris. The new Cat was $700 more than the Polaris but around $1600 less than a Doo. Please don't ask me what they cost because you enter into an agreement with the manufacturer to keep the price confidential. Only reason I know what the Doo costs is because it was posted on Doo-talk.
207nytro
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Sorta wish they made all of the sleds like this. They seem to have much less inside them but are able to outperform anything out there. Companies should pretty much make all their consumer sleds like race sleds. or atleast sell a race sled version. Imagine if polaris or arctic cat took a race sled turned it into a mountain climber and added EFI. There would sure still be much less under the hood than the sleds they sell now.
AKrider
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I agree with you. Here in AK, lots of the old race sleds turn into long track mountain sleds. It really isn't a bad way to go if you buy a used race sled for a good deal. Dropping in a larger engine isn't too terribly difficult if a guy is handy and you buy a doaner sled. You then sell off the parts you don't need to recoup some of your cost. That part can be a pain in the #*$&@. But, in the end, you have a sled that is stronger and spec'd out just the way you want for less than what it would cost for a consumer model.
Puppe
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Looks about same that 2005 Iq 440 Racer, but with new stickers!
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The raked forward a arms look alot like the skinz concept front end for the nytros.
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Man those old RXL grapics and colors look so sweet,and the little 600cc motor is time tested,we have that same motor in my wifes 06 xc600 classic,not great on milage,but solid all around sled,yamaha still holds the best clutches in the biz though.
