FJR1300
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My son has moved out west, he's going to sell his XTX and wants to order a mountain sled. Should he order a 162 or 153? Looking for input. He's 6'2" and about 190#.
tmk50
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IMO on a new sled it's not even a choice right now. Go with the 162 so you can get the Ascent instead of the Maverick.
153 vs 162 will be debated forever - each work better in different conditions for different riders.
If he is going to ride any early season Rocky Mountain fluff, I think the 162 is the way to go. I have a 162 and can run it through the trees just fine with the 154s, 151s, and 155s in our riding group.
153 vs 162 will be debated forever - each work better in different conditions for different riders.
If he is going to ride any early season Rocky Mountain fluff, I think the 162 is the way to go. I have a 162 and can run it through the trees just fine with the 154s, 151s, and 155s in our riding group.
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I am not claiming to be an expert, but the few times I have tried 153-155" sleds, I have not really found any advantages compared to 162-163". In my opinion, 153-155" give up surface area that affects flotation and forward drive, but they do not really turn or handle significantly better than 162-163". I would only be interested in the 153-155" if I was looking for a Freeride or Assault type of sled.
On a side note regarding flotation and especially forward drive - lug design and lug height means more than track length. There are many examples and the best one is probably the 153" Power Claw or 153" Challenger Extreme outperforming the 162" Maverick.
On a side note regarding flotation and especially forward drive - lug design and lug height means more than track length. There are many examples and the best one is probably the 153" Power Claw or 153" Challenger Extreme outperforming the 162" Maverick.
judger101
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im a 153 guy, but then again im from north dakota and do alot of ditch banging.
I have had 153 and 162"s I prefer the 153.I own 2 153's right now but going to be puting one up for sale in the next few weeks.
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I have had 151, 159, 162, and 174. I would go 162 anyday! Compare track on the ground to a poo or doo, the 162Yamaha=155Poo and the 153Y=146P or close to...
hugger70mtnmax
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Tapex has it right I think. The design of the yamaha does not put a ton of track to the ground. If you measure rail length the Yamaha is about the same as the 155 poo and 154 summit. So I really think that the Yamaha needs the longer track. Mine started life as 153 and I would never go back after having the longer track.
The only downfall of the longer track: when you get stuck the backend is three feet down instead of two feet
The only downfall of the longer track: when you get stuck the backend is three feet down instead of two feet
Nytro19
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I grew up in flatland Ontario and moved to mountain mecca(B.C.) when I was 19. I was used to lake running and ripping through trails so for me the 153" is on my sled and it does great in the powder. I have ridden the 162" and it was hard to tell much of a difference in the steep and deep. The 153" was easier to manuver and was quicker on the groomed trail down the mountain. I would think the 162" would out climb the 153" if riders and sleds were equal in all respects, but you do use more HP with the 162"
cacsrx1
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No brainer .....162. This is one of the lowest powered and heaviest mountains sleds made. Dont handicap it even more with a small track.
FJR1300
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Thank You for all the input. I will relay to my son.
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Nytro19- if your running a stock 153 vs stock 162, the single ply mav is lighter which takes less HP to turn.. rotating mass is a HUGE factor in power to the ground.
ruffryder
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that would make more sense for a drag race, but for mountain riding that is not that big of an issue.tapex_07 said:
Nytro19
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Agreed. I'm running the Mav 153" and I imagine once the 162" is spinning it would tend to keep rotating a little longer than the 153". My sled is running 10PSI boost now and the Mav is just okay. With the turbo it seems to just climb by overwhelming the track and shoveling tons of snow past the flap. I will be extending to the 162" skid, ascent track and avid drivers for next winter. I'm sure there will be a huge differencetapex_07 said:
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"Power to the ground" isn't that big of an issue on mountain sleds??? Its in direct relation to how good or bad a sled will preform while climbing, boondocking, or even down the trail vs your buddies.
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the rotating mass was the issue at hand here..tapex_07 said:
I know a couple of people that have taken their skidoo sleds to 174's with 3" lugs. Say the sled becomes pretty much unstopable. Yet based on the rotating mass statement, it seems like it shouldn't do as good?
You guys are overstating the rotating mass issue. Especially when it comes to comparing tracks...
I have a 153 camo challenger (not extreme). I will be going to a 162 challenger extreme when I can get the funds together. Everyone I ride with has a 162, and it makes a difference for steep technical stuff, especially the slower you are going.
I would get the 3" paddles, but I like doing spring riding so the 3" wouldn't last too long on gravel roads, so the 2.5 extreme is it.
