Yellowknife
TY 4 Stroke Master
Here's the situation. I currently own a 2004 MX Z Renegade X 600 SDI. Sorry to say, but nothing beats the handling of a rev, but that isn't everything. I value service, and unfortunately due to staff changes at my skidoo dealer, they are really pissing me off lately. So much that I'm considering a brand change. The other factor is that the SDI is good, but not that good, mostly becuase my dealer doesn't know how to work on the thing. So....
Yamaha has a nice deal here, $2500 off a 2004 RX-1 Warrior, and while I considered this sled on paper before I baught the Rev, I'm even more curious about it now.
I ride lakes, all day long, very little trails here, lots of powder - not really deep mind you, a couple feet, but it is enough to suck the gas like you can't emagine. That's why a 4 stroke appeals to me, not to mention how quiet it would be, and reliable...I put on roughly 7000 km's per year, and around 14,000 km's my crank goes on the 2 stroke, and I need a rebuild. Will a RX-1 engine go way beyond that without replacing parts?
The weight of the thing scares me, but let's face it, no matter what I get stuck with, I don't lift the front end anyway, I just dig it out and go. I am concerned about hitting slush/open water with a Warrior....comments on that? And how does she carve in the powder on lakes? I won't be climbing anything, we don't have that kind of terrain here.
Another concern is our temperatures. I realize I can plug it in, but I ride down to -45. How cold will an RX-1 start without being plugged in? What about with sythetic oil - as I hear that gives it an even colder starting temperature range. I go out to the cabin a lot, no electricity, but I would be willing to get a small generator just for the sled, give me some temp numbers.
Fuel economy, give me some numbers! I don't ride on groomed trails so I burn a lot more gas than trail riders, but I need some numbers. I get 12 MPG on my SDI. What about an RX-1 on lakes/flat powder all day?
How comfortable is the sled to ride in the bumps? What trails we do have between lakes here are hellish moguls. The rev is amazing in them...I'm willing to sacrifice that for a better dealer, but I want to know how these RX-1's handle...
Finally, how much power and speed do these things have? I can hit 165 km/h on my SDI. Plenty fast for me, I like torque and power more than top speed, I don't race, I just liesure ride all day long.
I know there's a lot of questions and I'd really appreciate the time you guys take to answer, thanks a million! You'll play the largest part in whether or not I purchase this thing.
Yamaha has a nice deal here, $2500 off a 2004 RX-1 Warrior, and while I considered this sled on paper before I baught the Rev, I'm even more curious about it now.
I ride lakes, all day long, very little trails here, lots of powder - not really deep mind you, a couple feet, but it is enough to suck the gas like you can't emagine. That's why a 4 stroke appeals to me, not to mention how quiet it would be, and reliable...I put on roughly 7000 km's per year, and around 14,000 km's my crank goes on the 2 stroke, and I need a rebuild. Will a RX-1 engine go way beyond that without replacing parts?
The weight of the thing scares me, but let's face it, no matter what I get stuck with, I don't lift the front end anyway, I just dig it out and go. I am concerned about hitting slush/open water with a Warrior....comments on that? And how does she carve in the powder on lakes? I won't be climbing anything, we don't have that kind of terrain here.
Another concern is our temperatures. I realize I can plug it in, but I ride down to -45. How cold will an RX-1 start without being plugged in? What about with sythetic oil - as I hear that gives it an even colder starting temperature range. I go out to the cabin a lot, no electricity, but I would be willing to get a small generator just for the sled, give me some temp numbers.
Fuel economy, give me some numbers! I don't ride on groomed trails so I burn a lot more gas than trail riders, but I need some numbers. I get 12 MPG on my SDI. What about an RX-1 on lakes/flat powder all day?
How comfortable is the sled to ride in the bumps? What trails we do have between lakes here are hellish moguls. The rev is amazing in them...I'm willing to sacrifice that for a better dealer, but I want to know how these RX-1's handle...
Finally, how much power and speed do these things have? I can hit 165 km/h on my SDI. Plenty fast for me, I like torque and power more than top speed, I don't race, I just liesure ride all day long.
I know there's a lot of questions and I'd really appreciate the time you guys take to answer, thanks a million! You'll play the largest part in whether or not I purchase this thing.
Boston RX1
TY 4 Stroke Master
Welcome, I will take the first crack at it. First of all, it is no REV. The deep moguls you will have your hands full. As far as all of the other riding you do, I think the Warrior is perfect. You like torque, this is your sled. It is so smoothe and quiet. For lake running I think you will enjoy it. I will never, never go back to a stinker again. Reliability is fantastic. You gas and go. I am on regular oil until she is fully broken in. We can argue all day as to when that happens. I am waiting until 2K. I am almost there. I started her is -25 last weekend. She started hard, but she started. I think with the Synthetic oil, it will be much better. Overall, I think this is a great sled. I rate it a A. The only thing I thought should be changed is that the sled should have been dialed in better from the factory. I am learning on what to do and I am almost there. I think if you have the patients to trial and error, you will be able to make the sled do what you want for the most part. The engine should last forever. I hope this helps.
Tom-RX1
Expert
I run the RX1 shorty . I can run at over 130k in about 1.5 ft of powder . I have found that the shot choppy bumps on the groomed trail are rough but it handles the lake drifts with snow cover very well . The torque between (60 - 130 k ) is like nothing else out there smooth and silent . It feels just like a 60's muscle car . Gas mileage is good I get 15 on groomed and about 12 mp us gallon in powder . engine should last better than 25,000 miles . I have started mine at -32 c with no problem . The sled is the best I have ever had . The warrior should be evan better in the powder .
Tom-RX1
Tom-RX1
fstblkwarrior
Extreme
Keep in mind that you will be spending extra on a decent set of ski's, make all the difference especially in the powder!!
srx600
Extreme
maybe i can help here....I had the 03 F7 last year and bought another this year04. After MANY lost rides do to all the problems with updates and smart valve problems i brought my 04 F7 back to the dealer and left with the Warrior (last Friday). Prior sleds (before f7's) were all Yami's Vmax's, srx, sxr Viper ER and another dozen before them........The F7 is a blast to ride and the junk trails are handled with ease......I have 300 miles on the Warrior now and i can tell you this...The Warrior is, and can be a great trail sled if setup and adjusted right. I've taken some great advise from this forum and it's made all this difference in the world....You must understand the Warrior's limits and stay within them and you'll quickly figure out that this sled and it's WEIGHT that everyone talks about is not that noticable....Coming from a ditch banger to the Warrior is getting easier with every mile.........This sled is a work of art......The "fit and finish" along with the reliabilty is worth it's weight in GOLD.............Trust me........set it up right and you'll love it!! just don't expect it ti be a REV or FIRECAT.........it's not!!..it's a Yamaha that is smooth, fun, and won't be headed to the dealer !!!!!!!!!!!
Peter
Peter
srx600
Extreme
One more thing.........I put a set of C&A's on and it was worth the $$$$$
JDKRXW
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
Yellowknife, you made me curious with the crankshaft statement. FYI, new crank/pistons for MXZ600 Ski-Doo (newest Ski-Doo I could find online)=$1050 +$186USD, RX crank/pistons=$450+$65USD.
I hear you about the slush concerns with the weight of this sled (especially on your lakes). I've fooled around quite a bit in up to 2 ft. If you get caught by surprise going slow, this sled has the torque to pull up the revs to get you 'on top'. Handling in this stuff is a little disconcerning though..... you've got to grip the bars tight. I've got some A/C powder skis I'm going to try see if this helps out. You are on your own with the open water stuff though.
I ride with a bunch of buddies that have Rev-Gades and Rev-Summits. They are definitely better in the moguled up trails than a Warrior, but if you're in deep snow accross lakes etc.(where you're sitting on the seat) I'll take mine any day.
I hear you about the slush concerns with the weight of this sled (especially on your lakes). I've fooled around quite a bit in up to 2 ft. If you get caught by surprise going slow, this sled has the torque to pull up the revs to get you 'on top'. Handling in this stuff is a little disconcerning though..... you've got to grip the bars tight. I've got some A/C powder skis I'm going to try see if this helps out. You are on your own with the open water stuff though.
I ride with a bunch of buddies that have Rev-Gades and Rev-Summits. They are definitely better in the moguled up trails than a Warrior, but if you're in deep snow accross lakes etc.(where you're sitting on the seat) I'll take mine any day.
welterracer
TY 4 Stroke God
I would have to disagree with bostonrx1... I think the warriors suspension is AWSOME.. I hit mogles on purpose... Something i would not have done on my viper i had...
It RIDES AWSOME... RUNS AWSOME.... GREAT GAS MILAGE!!! Pulls like a rocket ship!!
IT IS SOOOOOO GOOD that i am buying a new one again...
THey only thing you have to get use to is there is a slight PUSH in VERY tight trails where ice is present.. But if you ride in high speed trails there is nothing like it...Period..
high speed stability is where this sled shines!!
It RIDES AWSOME... RUNS AWSOME.... GREAT GAS MILAGE!!! Pulls like a rocket ship!!
IT IS SOOOOOO GOOD that i am buying a new one again...
THey only thing you have to get use to is there is a slight PUSH in VERY tight trails where ice is present.. But if you ride in high speed trails there is nothing like it...Period..
high speed stability is where this sled shines!!
YamahaRx-Warrior
Expert
1300 miles on the warrior and i love it rode all conditions.
Suspention actually works and the sled goed good.
Fule Mlahe has been from 12.5 in very bad conditions to as well as 19.5 on flat out trails.
I love the motor and have held it to the bar for miles on end and it does not fhase it.
I have a new pair of ski's for it Simmons to help in flat out trails but I Overall rate the sled a good A .
Only problem is cornering on ice due to bad carbides.
-25 now she's broken fires right up like nothing fisrt hit of the key.
Few weeks ago -25 took like 1 minute of cranking.
Dad also had the same sled and thinks the same of it.
Justin
Suspention actually works and the sled goed good.
Fule Mlahe has been from 12.5 in very bad conditions to as well as 19.5 on flat out trails.
I love the motor and have held it to the bar for miles on end and it does not fhase it.
I have a new pair of ski's for it Simmons to help in flat out trails but I Overall rate the sled a good A .
Only problem is cornering on ice due to bad carbides.
-25 now she's broken fires right up like nothing fisrt hit of the key.
Few weeks ago -25 took like 1 minute of cranking.
Dad also had the same sled and thinks the same of it.
Justin
I started mine at -27deg F. with pertoleum oil last winter after sitting outside covered for 4 days. This year since the synthetic oil at 1500mi. starts even easier.
I feel the sled would be great for the conditions you run. :!:
I feel the sled would be great for the conditions you run. :!:
Ski-Dog
Expert
Yellowknife - When I was deciding on a sled it was a toss between the REV Renegade and the Warrior. To this day its still a tough decision for me.
Positives of the Warrior
Great fuel economy - I am up to 23 MPG on Imperial gallons. This is trail riding mind you not pushing through 2 feet of powder. Did some powder riding and it dropped some but I would bet still in the 15 MPG range. That said I know some 600 SDI sleds that get great mileage as well.
Fit and finish is excellent. Overall the sled is well built. My last Ski-doo was great too but the attention to detail seems slightly better on the Yamaha.
Smooth power. This is the smoothest power plant I've ever had in a sled. It's simply silky smooth.
Ripsaw track hooks up reasonably well. I have left it unstudded thus far.
No smoke. Probably one of the biggest benefits is no two stroke smell. I don't miss it at all. That said if your not in front when with a group the benefit is undermined as you smell their exhaust.
Rear skid is better than some will say and performs admirably on groomed trail. But again it won't ride like a REV.
Engine will long outlast any 2 stroke for durability. A factor if you keep your sled for a long time.
Negatives of the Warrior
Sled is heavy. When trail riding not an overly big concern. When off trail the weight is noticable. It does go through powder reasonably well but you will never toss it around like your REV.
Storage is almost non existant. This is important to me and I have to acquire numerous luggage peices just to carry bare necessities. The REV has tons of storage and the accessories Ski-doo makes to carry extra stuff is superior to Yamaha. Most Yamaha Warrior accessories are actually for the short track and need to be modified to fit the Warrior.
Yamaha out of the box performance suffers. Unlike a Ski-doo you will have to spend valuable time and money to make it run like it should. Use clutching for an example it will be off on the Yamaha. Any ski-doo I've owned of late is almost bang on out of the box.
For me I had to pay a premium over the Ski-doo for this sled. I worry about resale too. REV's are holding up not bad at least in my area. Selling one of these RX based models second hand seems to take a serious depreciation.
Cold starting can be a concern. For me -40 C is the ticket. At this temp outside in the elements the sled will turn over but not fire. Above that it does start. I have installed an in line coolant heater but it is only good if there is somewhere to plug in. It also means carrying an extension cord on a sled with virtually no storage. I also carry jumper cables just in case. I have not field tested the heater yet but am confident that it will help.
My Take
In all honesty if Ski-doo had offered a 800 REV Renegade with SDI in 2004 I would have bought that instead of the Warrior. The Warrior works well for my riding - serious long distance trail but the REV would too and it would handle the local terrian where I live better. The ride is superior on a REV and I don't think anyone can dispute that. Gas milage on a 800 HO carb REV is terrible and it was a deal breaker for me.
If I were you I would endure the year with your 600 SDI. Wait to see what comes out from the manufacturers for 2005 and go from there. For me I like the Warrior but I will certainly be looking at the 05's and decide if a change is in order. I don't hold loyalty to one brand and simply purchase which best fits my bill. I have owned them all. I can say Yamaha manufactures a quality product.
Hope this helps.
Positives of the Warrior
Great fuel economy - I am up to 23 MPG on Imperial gallons. This is trail riding mind you not pushing through 2 feet of powder. Did some powder riding and it dropped some but I would bet still in the 15 MPG range. That said I know some 600 SDI sleds that get great mileage as well.
Fit and finish is excellent. Overall the sled is well built. My last Ski-doo was great too but the attention to detail seems slightly better on the Yamaha.
Smooth power. This is the smoothest power plant I've ever had in a sled. It's simply silky smooth.
Ripsaw track hooks up reasonably well. I have left it unstudded thus far.
No smoke. Probably one of the biggest benefits is no two stroke smell. I don't miss it at all. That said if your not in front when with a group the benefit is undermined as you smell their exhaust.
Rear skid is better than some will say and performs admirably on groomed trail. But again it won't ride like a REV.
Engine will long outlast any 2 stroke for durability. A factor if you keep your sled for a long time.
Negatives of the Warrior
Sled is heavy. When trail riding not an overly big concern. When off trail the weight is noticable. It does go through powder reasonably well but you will never toss it around like your REV.
Storage is almost non existant. This is important to me and I have to acquire numerous luggage peices just to carry bare necessities. The REV has tons of storage and the accessories Ski-doo makes to carry extra stuff is superior to Yamaha. Most Yamaha Warrior accessories are actually for the short track and need to be modified to fit the Warrior.
Yamaha out of the box performance suffers. Unlike a Ski-doo you will have to spend valuable time and money to make it run like it should. Use clutching for an example it will be off on the Yamaha. Any ski-doo I've owned of late is almost bang on out of the box.
For me I had to pay a premium over the Ski-doo for this sled. I worry about resale too. REV's are holding up not bad at least in my area. Selling one of these RX based models second hand seems to take a serious depreciation.
Cold starting can be a concern. For me -40 C is the ticket. At this temp outside in the elements the sled will turn over but not fire. Above that it does start. I have installed an in line coolant heater but it is only good if there is somewhere to plug in. It also means carrying an extension cord on a sled with virtually no storage. I also carry jumper cables just in case. I have not field tested the heater yet but am confident that it will help.
My Take
In all honesty if Ski-doo had offered a 800 REV Renegade with SDI in 2004 I would have bought that instead of the Warrior. The Warrior works well for my riding - serious long distance trail but the REV would too and it would handle the local terrian where I live better. The ride is superior on a REV and I don't think anyone can dispute that. Gas milage on a 800 HO carb REV is terrible and it was a deal breaker for me.
If I were you I would endure the year with your 600 SDI. Wait to see what comes out from the manufacturers for 2005 and go from there. For me I like the Warrior but I will certainly be looking at the 05's and decide if a change is in order. I don't hold loyalty to one brand and simply purchase which best fits my bill. I have owned them all. I can say Yamaha manufactures a quality product.
Hope this helps.
JDKRXW
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
Ski-Dog, Im not trying to be difficult but
- where is all of this storage on a Rev?
- set-up out of the box??? Mine was good enough to so that my buddy on an F7 ext can't beat me.
- depreciation? No offence but you should be buying used sleds if this is a major concern for you.
- Do you think ANY other big displacment sled is going to start without some desparate measures whether its got a recoil or electric or both?
- where is all of this storage on a Rev?
- set-up out of the box??? Mine was good enough to so that my buddy on an F7 ext can't beat me.
- depreciation? No offence but you should be buying used sleds if this is a major concern for you.
- Do you think ANY other big displacment sled is going to start without some desparate measures whether its got a recoil or electric or both?
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Yellowknife said:
Perfect conditions for the Warrior! As far as longevity goes, the engine doesn't require anything until 24,000 miles, a valve lash check
I just spent the weekend on my Warrior in all of the conditions you describe and it was fabulous. I averaged 16.2 mpg's in very loose snow with some lake running.
nhrxrider
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
Several people already answered most of the major questions, so I'll take a shot at a couple key points. First, even my '03 shorty made it across open water (you asked about slush) with the original track. We had to do about 75 feet of open water after the thin ice over a section of pond had broken. No problem, although I was SCARED that my sled would sink! Water had to have been 3+ feet deep. Yup its heavy, but it will stay on the wet stuff.
For suspension, you HAVE to adjust these suspensions JUST RIGHT for them to ride great. They will ride and handle HORRIBLE if the setup is off a little, but the fine tuning makes all the difference! I went from hating mine and looking into an entire rear skid conversion, to liking it very much abd now I'm only going to convert to a 136" track (like the Warrior) to eliminate the stutter bumps. Before the last suspension adjustments, I'd get back aches and neck strain after 100 miles. Last weekend we did 288 on Saturday and I wasn't sore at all, I just had to stretch a little from sitting so long.
I've started mine outside in -23 to -30 F. temps, and it started without a problem. I'm going to be switching to synthetic next oil change to help it crank better just to cover myself.
Mileage: Riding with a friend who had a ZR600, he was sipping fumes when I still had 1/4 tank left, and his tank was 2 gallons larger. I haven't done it yet, because I'm always riding hard, but once when I was taking it easy I was able to get 70 miles out of the first 3/8 of a tank...I think if I kept that pace I might have done 150 miles on that tank of fuel.
I rode a Rev, and I guess its a love or hate thing. I only did less than 2 miles, and my back, shoulders, and arms were hurting from the riding position. I'm 6'4"...don't know if that had anything to do with it, but I just didn't like the riding position. I know I'm in the minority...but just saying that its not for everyone.
Jim
For suspension, you HAVE to adjust these suspensions JUST RIGHT for them to ride great. They will ride and handle HORRIBLE if the setup is off a little, but the fine tuning makes all the difference! I went from hating mine and looking into an entire rear skid conversion, to liking it very much abd now I'm only going to convert to a 136" track (like the Warrior) to eliminate the stutter bumps. Before the last suspension adjustments, I'd get back aches and neck strain after 100 miles. Last weekend we did 288 on Saturday and I wasn't sore at all, I just had to stretch a little from sitting so long.
I've started mine outside in -23 to -30 F. temps, and it started without a problem. I'm going to be switching to synthetic next oil change to help it crank better just to cover myself.
Mileage: Riding with a friend who had a ZR600, he was sipping fumes when I still had 1/4 tank left, and his tank was 2 gallons larger. I haven't done it yet, because I'm always riding hard, but once when I was taking it easy I was able to get 70 miles out of the first 3/8 of a tank...I think if I kept that pace I might have done 150 miles on that tank of fuel.
I rode a Rev, and I guess its a love or hate thing. I only did less than 2 miles, and my back, shoulders, and arms were hurting from the riding position. I'm 6'4"...don't know if that had anything to do with it, but I just didn't like the riding position. I know I'm in the minority...but just saying that its not for everyone.
Jim
Yellowknife
TY 4 Stroke Master
Wow. Thanks for all of the reply's. They are all excellent and REALLY help me out. I owe you guys big time!!
Reviewing all of your posts;
I don't like that I'll have to fiddle with the sled to get it running the way I want, mostly because I'm not technically inclined, especially on an RX.
It looks like I'd be smart to purchase a tiny generator just powerful enough to plug that puppy in out at the cabin. Not a big deal.
Gas mileage, well thanks for being honest. I was told 25 MPG by the dealer here. Not even close. The RX-1 seems to get what my SDI does. Less the fact I don't have to burn oil in the RX, which is a plus.
So the handling in the bumps isn't the same as a Rev, not a problem, I drove a ZX for years and years.
It looks like I should avoid slush and open water instead of challenge it with an RX-1. I love riding in that stuff, so this is a negative.
The way the engine will last is a huge plus for me. I can't put that one into words.
Smooth consistant power, I like that. My dealer doesn't know how to get my SDI to be like that. Plus goes to the Warrior.
The storage on a Renegade, even with the mountain seat is excellent. I have the jerry can, which is the best idea I've seen in a long time, plus the rack fits any load (my huge back pack) and I have a heavy duty hitch that I can pull all the caribou I kill, moose etc. I'm a big hunter/fisherman when I'm not joy riding. The Warrior does not have any of this. I realise the back end can be modified and worked to do what my Renegade can do, but that will cost big dollars. I'll post a pic at the end of this to show you my Rev.
Hiensight is 20/20, so if I had known my dealer was going to turn to #*$&@, I would have baught the Warrior. Problem is I want a truck in 2 years so if I want to change brands I need to do it now...but waiting for the new line-ups to roll out is what I'd prefer, then again I would get the money off on the sticker they are offering now. Back and forth contimplations.
Sounds like a Warrior and my SDI have about the same top end give or take a few but that doesn't matter much to me. They both have power, but my SDI sucks in mid-range, again because they can't get it set up properly.
Well, I think that basically the negatives of my SDI situation level with the negatives of the RX. No matter how I look at it, they seem equal for what I need overall. Problem is I would take a hell of a hit on my SDI...that's what is making me think I'm going to keep my SDI and hope that my dealer can learn how to work on it. If the rest of this season takes a crap because of my dealers idiocy, I think that truck will have to wait a year and I'll be signing up for a 2005 Yamaha.
By the way, I went into the cat dealer, slick bastards, they are trying to sell me the 2005 Turbo 660cc, that red and white thing. It is too expensive, not to mention no deals on it, and it's a short track...I love suzuki and I bet the engine is amazing, but I can't stand the way that thing looks, and I've always hated Cats. hehehehe
Thanks for all your help guys...looks like I'll be holding onto this for a little while longer...still kinda undecided though....we'll see...
Reviewing all of your posts;
I don't like that I'll have to fiddle with the sled to get it running the way I want, mostly because I'm not technically inclined, especially on an RX.
It looks like I'd be smart to purchase a tiny generator just powerful enough to plug that puppy in out at the cabin. Not a big deal.
Gas mileage, well thanks for being honest. I was told 25 MPG by the dealer here. Not even close. The RX-1 seems to get what my SDI does. Less the fact I don't have to burn oil in the RX, which is a plus.
So the handling in the bumps isn't the same as a Rev, not a problem, I drove a ZX for years and years.
It looks like I should avoid slush and open water instead of challenge it with an RX-1. I love riding in that stuff, so this is a negative.
The way the engine will last is a huge plus for me. I can't put that one into words.
Smooth consistant power, I like that. My dealer doesn't know how to get my SDI to be like that. Plus goes to the Warrior.
The storage on a Renegade, even with the mountain seat is excellent. I have the jerry can, which is the best idea I've seen in a long time, plus the rack fits any load (my huge back pack) and I have a heavy duty hitch that I can pull all the caribou I kill, moose etc. I'm a big hunter/fisherman when I'm not joy riding. The Warrior does not have any of this. I realise the back end can be modified and worked to do what my Renegade can do, but that will cost big dollars. I'll post a pic at the end of this to show you my Rev.
Hiensight is 20/20, so if I had known my dealer was going to turn to #*$&@, I would have baught the Warrior. Problem is I want a truck in 2 years so if I want to change brands I need to do it now...but waiting for the new line-ups to roll out is what I'd prefer, then again I would get the money off on the sticker they are offering now. Back and forth contimplations.
Sounds like a Warrior and my SDI have about the same top end give or take a few but that doesn't matter much to me. They both have power, but my SDI sucks in mid-range, again because they can't get it set up properly.
Well, I think that basically the negatives of my SDI situation level with the negatives of the RX. No matter how I look at it, they seem equal for what I need overall. Problem is I would take a hell of a hit on my SDI...that's what is making me think I'm going to keep my SDI and hope that my dealer can learn how to work on it. If the rest of this season takes a crap because of my dealers idiocy, I think that truck will have to wait a year and I'll be signing up for a 2005 Yamaha.
By the way, I went into the cat dealer, slick bastards, they are trying to sell me the 2005 Turbo 660cc, that red and white thing. It is too expensive, not to mention no deals on it, and it's a short track...I love suzuki and I bet the engine is amazing, but I can't stand the way that thing looks, and I've always hated Cats. hehehehe
Thanks for all your help guys...looks like I'll be holding onto this for a little while longer...still kinda undecided though....we'll see...
