sofunkingcool
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Can you guys explain to me why I had two people tell me to stay away from 2008 Nytro's? One guy was a dealer something about a sub frame and some bolt that falls out? The other dude i met on the trail told me to buy a 09 or newer cause 08's had issues.
I'm looking into getting a nytro a soon as I sell my doo which I'm pretty sure i just did yesterday.
Just wondering if someone can clear things up for me cause this whole Yamaha 4 stroke thing is very new to me I have been do lots of reading and haven't really read anything bad. Thanks.
I'm looking into getting a nytro a soon as I sell my doo which I'm pretty sure i just did yesterday.
Just wondering if someone can clear things up for me cause this whole Yamaha 4 stroke thing is very new to me I have been do lots of reading and haven't really read anything bad. Thanks.
Turk
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Read thru the stickies in the nytro section. Everything is covered in depth.
yox185
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sofunkingcool said:
The 08's are not nearly as bad as people make them out to be.
The only difference is the front bulk head, which I have not had a major problem with and I ride quite hard. The handling quarks on the 08 are only felt if you ride like a girl. If you ride hard you can't tell. They dance around a little more in smooth trails compared to the 09+. You can fix most of this with some adjustments, and ski's, which you need on any year. I wouldn't be scared of the 08's at all. But thats just me, you'll get internet jockies telling you otherwise. Probably guys that have never had much seat time on one to even give you a fair judgment but they will tell you a horor story like they know what there talking about.
rrxx-1
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waubamikrider said:
Exactly.........
AKrider
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The weak bulkhead thing is overblown. Could it be stronger? Yes it could, but it isn't bad. The only time I bent anything is when I cart wheeled my sled at high speed. That was my fault. Even after that, I pried the a-arms back into alignment and they've been working fine.
My suspicion is a lot of guys are hitting things and they either did not notice or don't want to admit to it. When impact damage is involved, all bets are off. You can read the same weak front end complaints on the Dootalk forum about the Rev and XP. The Polaris IQ seems to be more durable. I don't know about the Cats since I don't spend anytime in those forums.
My suspicion is a lot of guys are hitting things and they either did not notice or don't want to admit to it. When impact damage is involved, all bets are off. You can read the same weak front end complaints on the Dootalk forum about the Rev and XP. The Polaris IQ seems to be more durable. I don't know about the Cats since I don't spend anytime in those forums.
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I don't think the weak bulkhead is overblown...it's a fact. There are at least 93 Nytro owners on this site alone who've suffered a bent subframe, some more than once, both 08s and 09s. Read here: http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php?t=66629
The 08s are a bit more darty than the later models, however don't forget, this sled wasn't originally marketed as a trail sled, but an "Extreme Terrain" Snowcross type sled.
The 08s are a bit more darty than the later models, however don't forget, this sled wasn't originally marketed as a trail sled, but an "Extreme Terrain" Snowcross type sled.
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Grimm said:
Do you have one?? Do you know anyone well enough to trust their judgement, that has one?? If not you are the type of guy that made it overblown. Its all internet bull for the most part. I have hit thing like rocks stumps pretty hard, and thought I might had bent the front end but everytime i check its all good. So what if 100 guys bent their front end.
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Yes I have bent my subframe.
I did not hit anything.
It bent at less than 5 mph.
And Yamaha did not cover it.
Perhaps I'm bitter over it, but that is my right as an owner who spent a lot of money on an "Extreme Terrain" sled that bends.
I did not hit anything.
It bent at less than 5 mph.
And Yamaha did not cover it.
Perhaps I'm bitter over it, but that is my right as an owner who spent a lot of money on an "Extreme Terrain" sled that bends.
Snowman07
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I gotta agree that alot of things said about the 08's are over done. Did I bend my subframe.....yep sure did. But I bent mine by smacking a 300 lb rock. Doubt anyone's sled would hold up to that.
After 6900 miles of riding on my 2008 Nytro, gotta say it's the best sled I've owned. One clown belt in all that miles, gott a love Yamaha reliabilty.
After 6900 miles of riding on my 2008 Nytro, gotta say it's the best sled I've owned. One clown belt in all that miles, gott a love Yamaha reliabilty.
AKrider
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Grimm,
How in the world did you bend your subframe by not hitting anything and it bent at less than 5 mph? I'd like to hear the details if you don't mind posting.
How in the world did you bend your subframe by not hitting anything and it bent at less than 5 mph? I'd like to hear the details if you don't mind posting.
yamahabandit
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I agree with AKrider, how in heaven's name can u bend sub frame at 5 mph. I don't ride as hard as some of u, but I've taken some very hard landings and sled and I survived!
Sure , the 08 has issues. Some of them bordering on severe. Having said this, if you are a sledhead by nature you can get one rockin good sled. Do not, repeat do not buy a Nytro unless you luv to tinker a lot! Nytros are not touring sleds or for someone that just wants to buy a sled and ride all winter without checking,adjusting and getting down and dirty.
Sure , the 08 has issues. Some of them bordering on severe. Having said this, if you are a sledhead by nature you can get one rockin good sled. Do not, repeat do not buy a Nytro unless you luv to tinker a lot! Nytros are not touring sleds or for someone that just wants to buy a sled and ride all winter without checking,adjusting and getting down and dirty.
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It occurred when I approached a wash out in the trail, about a 4 foot drop vertically and maybe 10 feet in length, very much like crossing a ditch. The type where you stop at the top, which I did, creep down one slope and then ride up the other side. Except one ski caught on the upslope and stopped me cold. I shifted the sled a bit and gunned it out of the washout and I realized the handling was off when back on the trail. I looked down and noticed that my right ski was pointing inward...100km on the sled...not happy.
Yamaha denied me warranty because it happened as the result of an impact.
Keep in mind that each year, 08, 09 & 10, Yamaha has a different part number for the subframe. Each year, it has apparently been strengthened. I'm curious to see if the subframe will have a different part number on the 2011 Nytros, anyone know?
After bending it back (no way I'm shelling out over $800 up here), all season long, I babied that sled in fear of bending up that suspension again. Always worrying if it'll hold up and looking at the shock placement between the A arms while riding...I hated that feeling.
Then the bolt that the upper A arm mounts to the subframe let go...here we go again.
I thought I had snapped the bolt and again, silly me, thinking that warranty would cover it, took it to the Dealer, but they wanted $$$ to look into the problem. I said forget it and fixed it myself. It turns out, the bolt had backed out from the mount and low and behold, the following year, Yamaha sends out a recall on that very same bolt.
Yamaha denied me warranty because it happened as the result of an impact.
Keep in mind that each year, 08, 09 & 10, Yamaha has a different part number for the subframe. Each year, it has apparently been strengthened. I'm curious to see if the subframe will have a different part number on the 2011 Nytros, anyone know?
After bending it back (no way I'm shelling out over $800 up here), all season long, I babied that sled in fear of bending up that suspension again. Always worrying if it'll hold up and looking at the shock placement between the A arms while riding...I hated that feeling.
Then the bolt that the upper A arm mounts to the subframe let go...here we go again.
I thought I had snapped the bolt and again, silly me, thinking that warranty would cover it, took it to the Dealer, but they wanted $$$ to look into the problem. I said forget it and fixed it myself. It turns out, the bolt had backed out from the mount and low and behold, the following year, Yamaha sends out a recall on that very same bolt.
snownutz
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Have 5000 miles on my 08 with no issues. Updated front upper joints. Sled handles great.
AKrider
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I understand your frustration but you got the ski hung up on something and you horsed it out. I doubt an older, trailing arm sled would have received any damage, but the new A-arm sleds are not as durable. Same thing could have happened to an XP or a Rev. The a-arms on those sleds and the Nytro are very long while the mounting points are narrow, like on a high performance quad. Unfortunately, skis and carbides like to catch on things way more than do tires. It's just the nature of the new designs. Does it suck? Yes. I never had complaints about my old trailing arm sleds. Unfortunately this is the direction most sleds are heading to.
The RX-1/Apex chassis has a more durable front end but is more difficult to fix if you do damage the bulkhead. Same thing with the bulkhead on an old trailing arm sled.
The Nytro's front end is fine if you aren't hitting things. As we all know, sleds are not made to smash into stuff. But the older models were more durable than the new ones. I bet that holds true for all brands.
The RX-1/Apex chassis has a more durable front end but is more difficult to fix if you do damage the bulkhead. Same thing with the bulkhead on an old trailing arm sled.
The Nytro's front end is fine if you aren't hitting things. As we all know, sleds are not made to smash into stuff. But the older models were more durable than the new ones. I bet that holds true for all brands.
