2016 model Vectors - thoughts?

[4strokeluvr111]

Jim, You could just sell me your 14 Vector LTX for like $ 7500 ( I will bring cash on the 21st ) and you can buy the updated one!!!
I think its a good plan!!

Wow....tempting Dan.......NOT!!!!

And it's the 20th!

 

[TRUE BLUE SINCE 1980]

The Vector just screams it wants to be a 136 . They should have dropped the 121 years ago ....So the 128 may be ok as a replacement. (I feel sorry for the people that bought the 121, for a few $;s more they don't know what they are missing!) I also thought the approach angle is different.
LETS Just Hope This Suspension IS The First Generation for The Next NEW Sled . It almost has to be , Yamaha always carries something over to the next sled. They sort of don't have a clean sheet mentally .....Not bitchin, Just say in !!!!

 

[DGZRT]

This shows on a Motor cycle what the YCCT does. It's very cool !! From what I have learned so far it should improve the throttle response Throughout the whole Power band !!!

 

[DGZRT]

Yes, but I will need to test drive it on the 20th for the whole day! Just to make sure LOL !

 

[DGZRT]

A Better pic... I still can't see if there is a linkage to the front Arm. It looks like it but hard to tell..

 

[4strokeluvr111]

Yes, but I will need to test drive it on the 20th for the whole day! Just to make sure LOL !

Oh....I get it now!

You know that Dave's 08 Vec is officially for sale? Jeez...if I was in the market for another sled and $4500 was my budget it would be in my garage now!

Don't want to pollute this thread any more than it has already been!

 

[pdiddy]

I'm pretty happy about the RS updates for 2016. The obvious thing I was hoping for was the 129" track and they delivered. Didn't expect a new skid so that's a bonus. I agree with Jason - and think the new skid it's a precursor to a new all-yammi chassis coming in the next model year or 2. I think the new throttle system will be a hit with rental fleets and taming the sled for the wife and kids. Here's my .02 (if they haven't already done this) - It would be great to tame and limit the throttle response when the sled is in reverse. I have a heck of a time controlling my Vectors in reverse - once it starts to move I have a tendency to bump into the throttle and the sled takes off too fast. If they've already thought of this they should call attention to it and feature this as a selling point.

 

[4strokeluvr111]

A Better pic... I still can't see if there is a linkage to the front Arm. It looks like it but hard to tell..

It looks like the front A (H?) arm is simply attached to the rails.....no pivoting. (?)

 

[4strokeluvr111]

It would be great to tame and limit the throttle response when the sled is in reverse. I have a heck of a time controlling my Vectors in reverse - once it starts to move I have a tendency to bump into the throttle and the sled takes off too fast.

If you haven't already done this, I think you'll find that a lower engagement primary spring will help quite a bit.

 

[DGZRT]

It looks like the front A (H?) arm is simply attached to the rails.....no pivoting. (?)

If the front Arm is just pivoting how can they call it Coupled? Are the blocks behind the rear arm just to control the weight transfer?

 

[4strokeluvr111]

If the front Arm is just pivoting how can they call it Coupled? Are the blocks behind the rear arm just to control the weight transfer?

It looks like the front of the shock is in fact pivoting between the rails somehow. To me, to have a fully coupled suspension you need two separate, independent acting arms. The Mono doesn't have this and neither does the Singleshot. BUT....they are not designed to be a traditional coupled skid.

The front arm on the Mono skid isn't coupled in the traditional sense. It's only attached to them transfer mechanism. The Singleshot seems to be controlling weight transfer as you suggest....via the rear blocks.

 

[maxdlx]

I wonder if there is a linkage from the shock mount to the front arm like on my rtx just no front shock. The video of it in action looks tempting. I'll keep my 144 07 apex but this Vector in 146 would be a nice addition.

 

[TOMBOB]

Sorry about that, the Viper guys driving me nuts. Good to her RS site got something new talk about

 

[4strokeluvr111]

Sorry about that, the Viper guys driving me nuts. Good to her RS site got something new talk about

Hey no problem! Some refinements but I still haven't looked really deep. Biggest change is the skid which IMO until we see it and ride it, the jury is out in my book.

 

[Metallicat]

The front arm appears to be attached to the rails independent of the shock. This would be a traditional way to mount a shock where the front of the shock has it's own pivoting mount between the rails. The shock control rods on either side of the shock determine the shock speed rate. The control rods can be used by the manufacturer to produce a progressive, linear, or falling rate shock. On my Cat, I could change the shock rod mounting points to alter the shock rate. Since they are using an air shock which is highly progressive by nature, it will be interesting to see how they have tuned the mechanics of the linkage. The coupling blocks for the rear arm are likewise a traditional design first seen in 1995 on Polaris sleds. It is a simple way to couple a skid, but the coupling efficiency isn't usually that great with unequal length front and rear arms. With no front arm shock they may have solved one of the problems with this arrangement...the combined shock and spring rates get really goofy on the coupled AC and Polaris skids when the rear arm ccompresses independent of the front, like on a tail landing.