vecRStor
Extreme
Just trying to get some info:
This may be a very stupid question but is 30HD oil the same as 0W30?
My Yamaha dealer gave me Yamalube 5W30 and the oil change went smoothly. The question I have to the members is...........will it be a problem riding in the UP, MI.? Does this oil do well at 20 or 30F? or will it be hard to push the 5W through the sump?
This may be a very stupid question but is 30HD oil the same as 0W30?
My Yamaha dealer gave me Yamalube 5W30 and the oil change went smoothly. The question I have to the members is...........will it be a problem riding in the UP, MI.? Does this oil do well at 20 or 30F? or will it be hard to push the 5W through the sump?
No, 30HD is not the same as 0w30. 30HD is a straight 30 weight oil. 0w30 is a blend. Yamaha's recommended oil for your sled is Yamaha's 0w30 semi synthetic. I've been in Canada at -30 and it turned over easy with the 0w30. The 5w30 you put in yours should be fine at 20 to 30 degrees.
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I was given 5-30 by my dealer and used it for my first oil change @500 miles. That season we got to zeroand below several times and I never had a starting problem. I have since switched to the recommended 0-30 semi-synthetic. I now have over 6000 miles on the sled with no problems.
Canadian Lad
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I don't think you should have a problem at those temperatures. The 0-30 synthetic is more for much more extreme temps. Personally I use the 0-30 synthetic as I drive in temps that reach -20 to -35 C.
I have been using 0w40, wanted alittle thicker for the turbo setup, most of the times in the mountains out west its around -5C or 25/30F.
Red- 0W40 is not thicker then 0w30. The first number is the actual oil weight. The second number is the protection range. For example 5W-30 means a 5 weight oil that can protect like a 30W oil.
0W40 is thicker, than 0W30. The 0 up 25 how the oil acts at 0 F, then W for Winter, second number is from 20 to 60 is how the oil acts at 210 F. Thats why its called multi-viscostiy oil, both numbers are a rating of oil. You can find this info on lots of website/text books/etc. I made sure I looked it up before I replied.
sleddheadd
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the society of automotive engineers(SAE) have established 12 different viscosity grades. vicosity grades will determine the oils dynamic viscosity and kinematic viscosity.
the dynamic viscosity is the first # you see usually followed by a W , which , yes , you can associate that # with winter to help you think of how it performs in cold weather.the SAE has determined 6 grades of "winter" formulas beginning with 0W and working up to 25W in 5 point incriments. what they are measureing with this is the lubricants ability to pump 60,000centipointe units with no yield stress at certain temps. for ex.
0W = 60,000 cP @-40*C
5W = 60,000 cP @-35*C
10W = 60,000 cP @ -30*C and so on till 25Wwhich is 60,000 cP@-15
basically the smaller the # the better protection for colder temps.
the next # measures the lubricants ability to pour or its kinemetric viscosity, which is measured by the time it takes an oil to pour out of a container. the temp. is always consistant at 100*C (212*F)
this is #ered from 20 -60 in 10 pt incriments and is measured using sabolt universal second(sus) for ex.
sae20@100*c will empty in min.5.6sus and a max. of9.3sus
30 = 9.3sus - 12.5sus
40 = 12.5sus- 16.3sus
60 = 21.9sus - 26.1sus
in other words the oil will empty out of the container just by pouring in 5.6 seconds (roughly) to 9.3 seconds
remember you do not want your oil viscosity to thin in hot temps. because you will lose you ability to lubricate and protect your engine.
a good ex is this. a truck driver leaves florida with a load of oranges heading for minnesota, in fla. he runs SAE 30 oil because of the ambient temp. in fla. when he (or she) get to min. the driver finds the SAE 30 is to viscious or thick to handle the sub zero temps and is having a hard time starting the vehicle. after changing oil to an SAE 15W the starting problem is solved and he can continue on. when he gets back to fla. he finds the SAE 15W is to thin due to the high temps. in fla. therefore the lubricant can not protect the engine like it should.
thus they have made multi viscosity oils. the point is not that a certain oil is thicker or thinner because under different circumstances they will all flow the same it just depends on the temp. of the product.
hnow many times have we been in the north woods and the temp. has been -30* one day and 30* the next? i've seen it! make sure you choose an oil that is best for your climate and has a broad viscosity range to cover those sudden changes in weather!
basically the ultimate protection for any motor would be a 0W-60 but the viscosity range of that oil is nearly impossible to achieve
i run amsoil 0W-40 four stroke in mine and i love it!
next post on different comparitive tests run by the american petroleum institute(API) and exactly how and why an oil breaks down !
the dynamic viscosity is the first # you see usually followed by a W , which , yes , you can associate that # with winter to help you think of how it performs in cold weather.the SAE has determined 6 grades of "winter" formulas beginning with 0W and working up to 25W in 5 point incriments. what they are measureing with this is the lubricants ability to pump 60,000centipointe units with no yield stress at certain temps. for ex.
0W = 60,000 cP @-40*C
5W = 60,000 cP @-35*C
10W = 60,000 cP @ -30*C and so on till 25Wwhich is 60,000 cP@-15
basically the smaller the # the better protection for colder temps.
the next # measures the lubricants ability to pour or its kinemetric viscosity, which is measured by the time it takes an oil to pour out of a container. the temp. is always consistant at 100*C (212*F)
this is #ered from 20 -60 in 10 pt incriments and is measured using sabolt universal second(sus) for ex.
sae20@100*c will empty in min.5.6sus and a max. of9.3sus
30 = 9.3sus - 12.5sus
40 = 12.5sus- 16.3sus
60 = 21.9sus - 26.1sus
in other words the oil will empty out of the container just by pouring in 5.6 seconds (roughly) to 9.3 seconds
remember you do not want your oil viscosity to thin in hot temps. because you will lose you ability to lubricate and protect your engine.
a good ex is this. a truck driver leaves florida with a load of oranges heading for minnesota, in fla. he runs SAE 30 oil because of the ambient temp. in fla. when he (or she) get to min. the driver finds the SAE 30 is to viscious or thick to handle the sub zero temps and is having a hard time starting the vehicle. after changing oil to an SAE 15W the starting problem is solved and he can continue on. when he gets back to fla. he finds the SAE 15W is to thin due to the high temps. in fla. therefore the lubricant can not protect the engine like it should.
thus they have made multi viscosity oils. the point is not that a certain oil is thicker or thinner because under different circumstances they will all flow the same it just depends on the temp. of the product.
hnow many times have we been in the north woods and the temp. has been -30* one day and 30* the next? i've seen it! make sure you choose an oil that is best for your climate and has a broad viscosity range to cover those sudden changes in weather!
basically the ultimate protection for any motor would be a 0W-60 but the viscosity range of that oil is nearly impossible to achieve
i run amsoil 0W-40 four stroke in mine and i love it!
next post on different comparitive tests run by the american petroleum institute(API) and exactly how and why an oil breaks down !
