anyone install the m-10 in the phazer?

[snopro442]

has anyone installed the m-10? if so please post up some pictures and how much work did it take to install it? thanks

 

[Jeffz]

Yes. I have an '01-newer standard M10 that came out of my '97 SX. I had everything powder coated and had both Fox shocks rebuilt before this season. I ordered a mount kit on Nov. 12th and finally received it on Jan. 18th. Team FAST took forever to get the mount kit to me because even though it was listed as available, they didn't have one made. I made lots of phone calls wondering where it was. They had to test and remake it few different times. The rear torque arm has to be machined, but they send a print with that you can take to a machine shop if you can't do it yourself. They also send two modified upper carrier wheels. Had a chance to install it on Tuesday and finished Wednesday. I put 400+ miles on it so far, and can tell you it is definitely worth it. It is incredibly smooth. I can ride this thing harder than i've ever been able to. It takes big hits with ease, and makes the stutters disappear. It got really cold and windy this week and made all the drifts hard, making it a perfect time to test it out. Along with the M10, I did a few other upgrades to help with handling. It has NCI ball joint races. I made my own a-arm bushing kit from oilite bronze. Also made new bushings for the lower steering section. Upper ball-joints have had .100" taken off to change camber. Made the rear wheels myself. Stock skis, carbides and track. It's a totally different sled. I'll try to get some pics of it melted off. Sorry, no pictures of the install.

 

[cannondale27]

Very interested in how it reacts in the corners?Is it better transfer wise?In other words does it stay level or plant the front end if you get on the gas in the corners?Stock always does opposite and requires a steady throttle to avoid dive or raising front in corners.Is my biggest issue with our skid.I had a M10 in a old FormulaIII and it always raised the rear on the gas.I have often thought that that would help a Phazer rather than the rear dropping and front raising when on gas in corners.

 

[snopro442]

may I ask what they charged for the install kit?

 

[Jeffz]

It does stay flat more than it picks the inside ski up. It picked it up a lot more with the stock skid. I am usually giving it more gas through long sweeping corners and keeping it flat, but with lots of track spin. In the twisty's it will still pick it up a little, but throwing my body around corrects this. Another thing, it rarely bottoms out. After 400 miles this weekend, I bottomed it 3 times, but i've been testing it, so it's getting a beating. I think the install kit came to around $277. They charged me an extra 50 or so for the modified upper carriers wheels.

 

[cannondale27]

Cool!A bit of advice though.Dont let it bottom out ever.The adjusters at rear side only require about 1/8in adjustment to get rid of any bottoming.If it bottoms you will break the arm in front.I would really like to try one of those in mine.

 

[Jeffz]

I had it set too stiff to begin with, and backed the FRA off one notch and it seems to be perfect. I still have to try pretty hard to bottom it.

 

[cannondale27]

Its amazing how much such a little adjustment does on that FRA.

 

[spike337]

Cannondale, try a set of AC stopper blocks on the back of your rails. That cured all that up and down weight transfer, and obviously you can adjust accordingly. I have a set on my bench you can have if you want them.
Mike.

 

[Jeffz]

I really need to buy a set of Fox Floats for the front now.

 

[Weapon X]

Cannondale, try a set of AC stopper blocks on the back of your rails. That cured all that up and down weight transfer, and obviously you can adjust accordingly. I have a set on my bench you can have if you want them.
Mike.

Are you talkin A cat stopper blocks ,would it work in the stock skid?

 

[yam177]

Fast was at the I500 Luke karpick was driving a Phazer with an M10 air in the back doing testing. I have also been testing some of there Assault air shocks so they are definitely working on the Phazer stuff!

 

[spike337]

Cannondale, try a set of AC stopper blocks on the back of your rails. That cured all that up and down weight transfer, and obviously you can adjust accordingly. I have a set on my bench you can have if you want them.
Mike.

Are you talkin A cat stopper blocks ,would it work in the stock skid?

Yes. I just pulled them out a week ago to go back to stock. They were in there for over 2 seasons. I got use to them, but i remember a HUGE difference when i first put them in. I couldn't even see at night, my headlight was up and down from so much transfer. I like the weight transfer, but it's a little excessive.

 

[Weapon X]

Ya Night ridin is brutal cuz the transfer amount was the ride better or worse would you say.

 

[soul_hammer]

So what is the amount of travel this rear end has?