Dalton secondary spring???

[ROCKRTX]

I am trying to set-up my clutch but i am looking for compromise.I put the silver secondary spring with the clutch kit but it seem that the motor is too loaded.so i put back the pink secondary wrap at 70 and wow! the fun factor came back, but i lose 5 mph top end the next day( or it was a bad day ).So i decide to put back my silver spring wrap at 90 and remove my tip washer,it was a little better on the fun factor got a better run top speed but it was not like the pink spring for fun factor.

now i am looking at Dalton red secondary spring, on the site Dalton said that the spring torsion is like the silver spring but with more compression.

Can i see a difference between the Dalton red spring and the silver on my clutching?

 

[snowbeast]

Why was you wraping your secondary so tight,i run mine at 60,and i have dalton in right now at 60,w/cut stock helix,and all stock primary,runs to 10,800-11,000 and rips good. If you tighten your secondary to tight it wants to back shift anytime you hit a little bump,and its harder to upshift for max top end speed.

 

[ROCKRTX]

I put the kit like the instruction said so.but i was under reving at 10400 then i change to pink spring,then i came back to the silver and remove one tip washer and rev at 10600-10700 rpm.

Supertip set-up is : 8 washer in the heel, 0 in the middle, 0 in the tip

The sled is fast but the motor seem too loaded whit the silver spring, have better trottle response with the pink spring but slower top end.

If i put the silver wrap at 60, it will be even more loaded, i don't want that.

 

[ROCKERDAN]

I am trying to set-up my clutch but i am looking for compromise.I put the silver secondary spring with the clutch kit but it seem that the motor is too loaded.so i put back the pink secondary wrap at 70 and wow! the fun factor came back, but i lose 5 mph top end the next day( or it was a bad day ).So i decide to put back my silver spring wrap at 90 and remove my tip washer,it was a little better on the fun factor got a better run top speed but it was not like the pink spring for fun factor.

now i am looking at Dalton red secondary spring, on the site Dalton said that the spring torsion is like the silver spring but with more compression.

Can i see a difference between the Dalton red spring and the silver on my clutching?

first off you didnt say what clutch kit youre using this with...and also you would never wrap it above 70 at most...60 is stock...most "kits" come with a secondary spring and have been tested to work as a kit...not sure why you would be trying stock springs again...

the RED dalton secondary spring IMO works well with my setup....clutch setups all need to work in union with the entire setup...you cant just change one thing and expect much.

anything wrapped over 70 with stock yammie tangs wont have any top end.

Dan

 

[ROCKRTX]

Ulmer stage 2

 

[ROCKERDAN]

Ulmer stage 2

why arent you using allens spring?

dan

 

[Srxspec]

Standard setup should only have 6 washers in the heel with 1 washer in the tip on one side only. Extra heel weight will affect top end RPM as well. You can add extra heel weight if you have the traction to hook it up. Silver spring may not have felt faster, but side by side testing shows it as the butt dyno is not always calibrated correctly! The Dalton secondary spring at the same wind as Yamaha silver will run almost identical RPM up to about 80 MPH area where it picks up 100-200 or so RPM. We have run 122 mph with pink wrapped at 6-2 every sled/setup is a little different. It all has to work together!

 

[ROCKRTX]

Why i am asking this its because my sled feel have more pep when i let off the trottle and put it back on the trail with the pink spring vs the silver as my butt dyno. try to have best of both world ( top end vs acceleration corner to corner ).And yes i have a lot of traction , 192 1.325 woody gold digger.

Now the only thing i am thinking is to try the pink spring at 60 degree or have 2 different set-up,one for top speed and one for trail.

 

[ROCKRTX]

Standard setup should only have 6 washers in the heel with 1 washer in the tip on one side only. Extra heel weight will affect top end RPM as well. You can add extra heel weight if you have the traction to hook it up. Silver spring may not have felt faster, but side by side testing shows it as the butt dyno is not always calibrated correctly! The Dalton secondary spring at the same wind as Yamaha silver will run almost identical RPM up to about 80 MPH area where it picks up 100-200 or so RPM. We have run 122 mph with pink wrapped at 6-2 every sled/setup is a little different. It all has to work together!

So the red dalton spring will raise rpm at the end of a full shift? That will be nice!