LuvMyWarrior
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I have an 05 RX warrior and it says to not run gas containing over 5% Ethanol. First of all the only Ethanol I have ever seen at a minimum is 10% so in my opinion this is impossible. I checked the manual for an 07 Attak and it gives the same warning. I try to run non-ethanol fuel when possible - extremely hard to find in Chicago. What is everyone else doing and anyone ever had a problem running 10% ethanol? Do i need to rejet my warrior? If I buy an 07 Attak does the computer automatically change fuel air mixutre to compensate?
Thanks as always!
Thanks as always!
The Snow D.O.
Lifetime Member
Dude:
Stop torturing yourself and make a decision!!!!
Personally, sounds like you really want the Attak, SO GET IT!!!!!
Stop torturing yourself and make a decision!!!!
Personally, sounds like you really want the Attak, SO GET IT!!!!!
LuvMyWarrior
Extreme
I am getting an 07 Blue Attak. Already made that decision. Are you saying I am anal? Suffering from O.C.D.? Have a show named after me - Monk. You could be right but I will never admit it! I am a detail person!
I saw that 5% warning in the manual also. I intend to run whatever's available at the time...87 octane. And if that gas happens to have ethanol, I believe it will be just fine.
Of course I'm stating only my own intentions, not declaring that I really know the answer to this dilemma...
Of course I'm stating only my own intentions, not declaring that I really know the answer to this dilemma...
yammiman
Expert
If you have doubts, just run premium fuel - ethanol has a leaning effect on fuel so to off set it run premium (higher octane has a riching effect)!
i think one of the problems with ethenol is its corrosivness.
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In the United Socialist Republic of Mn all fuel is 10% ETHANOL and I have heard of no engine failures or other problems. I have 1800 miles on my Apex and no problem. My dealer, a Yamaha race engine building shop, says no problem with engines or warrenty.
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Lee F
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I ride a lot in Quebec. Does anyone know if they use ethanol in their fuel?
RXL95
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The ethanol is wrecking havic on alot of boats here in jersey. Not performance wise but on fuel tanks and lines and gaskets,.
XDooMan
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To answer your question regarding the use of ethanol in the province of Quebec the answer is, yes! Actually as of June 1st, 2006 I beleive all of the provinces will be blended with 10% Ethanol. I've heard it can cause a bigger problem with two strokes more than four strokers. The solution is to use premium fuel.
XDooMan said:
Not sure about Canada, but here in the States, ethanol is one of the more popular octane boosters that the refiners utilize...which means that buying premium fuel will actually INCREASE the chanc that you're buying ethanol...
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Premium fuel in MN still has ethanol- whole state, as it is a state mandated policy, you must request / find "NON OXYGENATED" to get away from it , I do not think this is necessary. Every one I know in MN runs the ethanol 10 % blend with out problems.
Ethanol is a strong cleaner / solvent so seals, lines & hoses need to be compatible and I believe Yamaha anticipated this and there for we are OK
My two cents
Yamadoo
Ethanol is a strong cleaner / solvent so seals, lines & hoses need to be compatible and I believe Yamaha anticipated this and there for we are OK
My two cents
Yamadoo
yammiman
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Unfortunately it is just a matter of time and ALL fuel regardless of grade will have 10% ethanol - several states (including Michigan) have already mandated this and before long it will be a Federal mandate - it will be hard to buy any fuel (including race fuel) without it - I have not been a fan of ethanol since it's conception - yes it is an alternative fuel sorce, but it is politically driven one and there are other ways to produce it - all of the right people (politicians) had to align themselves with it for their benefit and now it has become our oil savior! HA
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yammiman
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I don't think so:
The Ethyl Corporation was initially founded as a joint venture between General Motors and DuPont with the sole purpose of manufacturing and marketing tetraethyl lead as a fuel additive. However, when the EPA began to phase out the use of leaded gasoline in 1972, new fuel additives were needed to boost the octane of gasoline. Initially marketed in 1958 as a smoke suppressant for gas turbines, it was not until 1974 that the compound was used commercially as a fuel additive in unleaded gasoline. The Clean Air Act of 1977 banned the use of MMT until the Ethyl Corporation could prove that the additive would not lead to failure of new car emissions-control systems. As a result of this ruling, the Ethyl Corporation began a legal battle with the EPA, claiming that MMT was harmless to automobiles. In 1995, the U.S. Court of Appeals ruled that the EPA had exceeded its authority and, as a result, MMT became a legal fuel additive in the United States.[2]
The health hazards associated with MMT use have been hotly debated for decades. Most recently, a 2003 study by the NICNAS in Australia suggested that MMT was highly toxic to humans, but ruled that the airborne concentrations of manganese as a result of car emissions from vehicles using fuel containing MMT were not high enough to cause a major health problem.[3] However, a 2002 study by Masashi Kitazawa argued that dermal absorption from accidental spills, use of gasoline as a solvent cleaner, and deliberate gasoline fume inhalation were the main sources of potential MMT exposure.
Due in part to fears remaining from the environmental disaster that was leaded gasoline and questionable effects of MMT on automobile engines, MMT use in the United States as a gasoline additive has been virtually non-existent.
The Ethyl Corporation was initially founded as a joint venture between General Motors and DuPont with the sole purpose of manufacturing and marketing tetraethyl lead as a fuel additive. However, when the EPA began to phase out the use of leaded gasoline in 1972, new fuel additives were needed to boost the octane of gasoline. Initially marketed in 1958 as a smoke suppressant for gas turbines, it was not until 1974 that the compound was used commercially as a fuel additive in unleaded gasoline. The Clean Air Act of 1977 banned the use of MMT until the Ethyl Corporation could prove that the additive would not lead to failure of new car emissions-control systems. As a result of this ruling, the Ethyl Corporation began a legal battle with the EPA, claiming that MMT was harmless to automobiles. In 1995, the U.S. Court of Appeals ruled that the EPA had exceeded its authority and, as a result, MMT became a legal fuel additive in the United States.[2]
The health hazards associated with MMT use have been hotly debated for decades. Most recently, a 2003 study by the NICNAS in Australia suggested that MMT was highly toxic to humans, but ruled that the airborne concentrations of manganese as a result of car emissions from vehicles using fuel containing MMT were not high enough to cause a major health problem.[3] However, a 2002 study by Masashi Kitazawa argued that dermal absorption from accidental spills, use of gasoline as a solvent cleaner, and deliberate gasoline fume inhalation were the main sources of potential MMT exposure.
Due in part to fears remaining from the environmental disaster that was leaded gasoline and questionable effects of MMT on automobile engines, MMT use in the United States as a gasoline additive has been virtually non-existent.
