For those who even think about going to the dark side...

There is a huge markup in BRP oil!! BRP will continue to discredit Amsoil and other superior oil brands for that reason alone. I happen to run Amsoil marine in my supercharged wet clutch seadoo which BRP was against with great success. Here is some more reading on the watercraft TSB for those who care to read.
 

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300 hours is also the life expectancy of the kanaka grass trimmer i bought, am ready to go drop 14k on a time bomb
 
kinger said:
300 hours at 35 mph avg is 10,500 miles

Do you think our average speed is really that high? I divided the hours on my truck with the odometer and I came up with an average speed of around 40mph. I think a sled's average speed is closer to 20mph which would put the life expectancy of the engine at 6000 miles.
 
No doubt Amsoil spent a bunch of money to do this study ... with the intent of persuading people to switch to its oil.

However, BRP will likely still insist on the use of its proprietary brand and refuse to honor any warranty claims when they can prove that an aftermarket oil has been used. So until the warranty period expires, I would think most people will continue to buy the manufacturers' brand.

I don't know how it would be possible to prove, but there are plenty of stories (urban legends?) about manufacturers refusing to honor a warranty because a customer did not use the manufacturer's proprietary oil. I've even heard one that claims a certain manufacturer includes a colored die in its oil that can only be detected under some type of special light. If the die isn't present when the motor is inspected, the warranty is voided. True or not I can't say, but as far as the manufacturer is concerned, if its warranty specifically says that it is void unless the manufacturer's proprietary oil is used - and the manufacturer can prove an aftermarket oil was used instead - the consumer is SOL. Pretty nice way of ensuring brand loyalty, eh?
 
OVR4D said:
No doubt Amsoil spent a bunch of money to do this study ... with the intent of persuading people to switch to its oil.

However, BRP will likely still insist on the use of its proprietary brand and refuse to honor any warranty claims when they can prove that an aftermarket oil has been used. So until the warranty period expires, I would think most people will continue to buy the manufacturers' brand.

I don't know how it would be possible to prove, but there are plenty of stories (urban legends?) about manufacturers refusing to honor a warranty because a customer did not use the manufacturer's proprietary oil. I've even heard one that claims a certain manufacturer includes a colored die in its oil that can only be detected under some type of special light. If the die isn't present when the motor is inspected, the warranty is voided. True or not I can't say, but as far as the manufacturer is concerned, if its warranty specifically says that it is void unless the manufacturer's proprietary oil is used - and the manufacturer can prove an aftermarket oil was used instead - the consumer is SOL. Pretty nice way of ensuring brand loyalty, eh?

Urban lengends is right as it is against the law to even imply "one must use their oil"

Car manu's tried this stunt years ago and lost big time and now all they can do is "recommend", which probably still sucks way too many people in :o|
 
300 hours? Really? I'm lucky if I get 30 hours out of my son's GTX. BRP sure lives up to their moniker...

Bring Rings and Pistons
 
Yamaha's last 2 stroke snowmobile engine was extremely reliable and efficient. If they used their 2 stroke direct injection technology that's in the outboards already they could sell a sled that would be attractive to a wider demographic, not just groomed trail riders.
 
gade-thrasher said:
kinger said:
300 hours at 35 mph avg is 10,500 miles

Do you think our average speed is really that high? I divided the hours on my truck with the odometer and I came up with an average speed of around 40mph. I think a sled's average speed is closer to 20mph which would put the life expectancy of the engine at 6000 miles.

Sled average at 35mph is close to perfect. I've averaged as high as 42mph in Manitoba. 35 to 38 is about what I average here! Sounds about right the 10,000 mile expectancy not many make it to 15,000. Very few make it anywhere near 20,000. Most need new rings at 3500 to 4500! Really depends how hard you thrash em!
 
Here in NH we average 17 mph. This from my GPS I have on all the time.
 
kinger said:
CaptCaper looking at your avatar I can see why you can only avg 17mph LOL

No I'm just old and worn out.. probably half blind too. :)
 


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