Gen 1 to Gen 2 upgrade

[Father Mike]

I have a 2006 apex that has everything done to it and I love it but thinking of upgrading to a 2011+ is it worth it? Id probably still keep my 06.

 

[Stubbs]

In one word, yes.
If you’d like to hear the reasons for this one word reply do a search and prepare to read for days, more improvements than you can shake a stick at.

 

[steiner]

You get to enjoy power steering and using premium fuel.

 

[chris189]

I would say no. Yes 2011+ is much more refined but I liked the 121 better. Its lighter. The new ones don't have that airbox bark.
If yours has all nice updates done... Keep it. If you want power steering and a taller seat along with a more bulletproof machine... Then go for it

 

[snobill]

I did and love my 12 xtx compared to my 07 attak

 

[blown apex]

my 121 were faster than 2011 and up xtx but power steering is a game changer
then i bought a 2023 ps srx wow what a game changer again

 

[dmaxx]

My Attak was all around quicker and faster on the top end then my XTX. BUT, the Attak was a mess off trail, poor handling on trail, terrible handwarmers, weak exhaust, and had electrical gremlins. Had to work hard to get it to handle. On the other hand, EXUP is a PITA but the rest of the 11+ make it worthwhile.

 

[steiner]

A well setup Attak like yours well ride nicer than a stock SE with floats. Proven this many times with a riding buddy that has a '12 SE
The 2nd gen will be faster in the short track version, heated grips are better, Mono II is more robust and you get a nice heated visor plug in on the handle bars.

 

[Phaze]

The mono suspension in your '06 is great. I had an 05 RX1 with the same setup. If you upgrade to 11/12 I would go with the SE, which is a mono, unless you plan on upgrading the XTX rear suspension with Star. The stock suspension is a lumber wagon. The springs are way too stiff. I changed mine out for a 09 Vector, I believe it was a Vector that was recommended. Maybe a Nytro, I forget... But it still needs work..... The SE and XTX both weigh 700lbs... I don't believe they had an LTX those years. The SE is 128"....

Here you can compare the 2:

2011 Yamaha Apex

2011 Yamaha Apex pictures, prices, information, and specifications.

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2011 Yamaha Apex XTX

2011 Yamaha Apex XTX pictures, prices, information, and specifications.

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[Phaze]

I did and love my 12 xtx compared to my 07 attak

Did you upgrade the rear suspension with Star?

 

[snobill]

Did you upgrade the rear suspension with Star?

no it’s not that bad but I thought about it, still better than my attak

 

[Phaze]

no it’s not that bad but I thought about it, still better than my attak

Wow. Your Attack must be like riding a log. I'm going to seriously consider installing that Star upgrade this summer...

 

[Stubbs]

My first 2nd gen Apex was an XTX with a Star kit, revalve, softer torsion springs, the works. I could never get it to ride as plush as I wanted, and would still bottom occasionally. The ‘16 XTX I’ve just completed has a tipped rail 146” Mono II suspension under it with a dual rate spring setup and decent valving. Hoping this works as more of a “do it all” setup. I ran something similar under my mod Nytro and absolutely loved it in 137” form. In my experience the mono tuned properly is an absolutely fantastic trail skid.

 

[Phaze]

Agree. The mono skid is excellent. I couldn't even push the rear down on the XTX until I put softer torsion springs in. It did make a big difference, but not there yet.. My '12 has tipped rails...

 

[maim]

i did not up grade my 11 to the star suspension kit but i did install the 09 nitro xtx springs with hygear torsion spring spacers and the 14 viper 4 position torsion adjusters. i did have to stiffen up the valving on the front skid shock but i must have done something right as other than slow stutter compliance, it rides so well that gf kicked me off of it and told me to buy myself a new sled.