Kachess
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without breaking the bank. We had 5 tons in McCall last week and started brainstorming on ways to get another 20lbs off. My sled is identical to the others except for lightweight steering posts and some lightenned steel in the nose, and they could feel the difference. Our main targets are:
Brake/rotor/chaincase - we have stock rotors, apex whole assy looks lighter,does it bolt on?
Steering posts - weigh a Ton, should be 4130
Nose steel - supports front bumper and hood hinge
Front end arms/spindles/rods - Barkbuster saves 12lbs, but for $830?
Exhaust - our glasspacks save alot of weight over stock, but are made of thick steel and still weight 10lb's, alone. Must be something lighter
Skid shocks- Have big springs, does fox make floats that bolt on??
Front shocks- one of our sled has floats on the front but their increased length (nose height) screws up sled's balance alot.
Ideas?? Others?
Brake/rotor/chaincase - we have stock rotors, apex whole assy looks lighter,does it bolt on?
Steering posts - weigh a Ton, should be 4130
Nose steel - supports front bumper and hood hinge
Front end arms/spindles/rods - Barkbuster saves 12lbs, but for $830?
Exhaust - our glasspacks save alot of weight over stock, but are made of thick steel and still weight 10lb's, alone. Must be something lighter
Skid shocks- Have big springs, does fox make floats that bolt on??
Front shocks- one of our sled has floats on the front but their increased length (nose height) screws up sled's balance alot.
Ideas?? Others?
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Joa
Newbie
Go with a 4130 tunnel (0.016 aluminum inside 4130 cage) and a super mini moto seat. There's your 20#
bdm
Expert
I think that you exhausted the sub-bank-breaking options and are going to be forced into higher dollar stuff - suspensions, tunnels, and seats. If you find any more cheap weight loss I will be thoroughly impressed.
maxdlx
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My yoshi exhaust with the y welded on only weighed right at 8 lbs total. Evey pound helps, and it sounds awesome. Maxdlx
woolyviper
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just go on a diet and lose 20 lbs - that's free.
Youngton
Veteran
I weigh 125lbs and 160 with all my gear on, Im gonna keep lookin for weight off the sled.
GotJuice
Expert
couple idea's
I have a cut off Hauck pipe that weighs 4lbs with y-pipe....lite enough? Also the steering linkage (cross shaft and drag link) on the Apex (I'm sure the RX-1 is similar) are big heavy metal pieces and could cut another 5-8 lbs from the nose with some billet aluminum or chromo or titanium pieces but you'd have to take some time to do it right! A-Arms from MPI cut weight and are cheaper then BB......Carbon Tech hood... poly carbonate much lighter and not to expensive... around 300.00
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I wish you guys would get on the Apex MNT. so all of us Apex guys could benefit from your inginuity....I'm sure with some time you could make the Apex better then your tons!
I have a cut off Hauck pipe that weighs 4lbs with y-pipe....lite enough? Also the steering linkage (cross shaft and drag link) on the Apex (I'm sure the RX-1 is similar) are big heavy metal pieces and could cut another 5-8 lbs from the nose with some billet aluminum or chromo or titanium pieces but you'd have to take some time to do it right! A-Arms from MPI cut weight and are cheaper then BB......Carbon Tech hood... poly carbonate much lighter and not to expensive... around 300.00
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I wish you guys would get on the Apex MNT. so all of us Apex guys could benefit from your inginuity....I'm sure with some time you could make the Apex better then your tons!
Kachess
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
What model yoshi, and how much for the hauck? Any photos? I think ours weighs a little over 12lb with the "y" pipe.
The boss seats are pretty light....I wonder how they compare to the moto seat.
I agree with the steering linkage..theres some steel in there.
MPI does make the crmoly steering posts, still. 2in and 4in longer than stock @199.00. Save's 2lbs. Costly lbs.
One of our Ton riders has an Apex that he's done the mods to (polaris holz rear, undertunnel exhaust, battery relocate, pod removal, crap off the tunnel, boss seat. It was a front end wreck he bought for $800, and has a only a little over 2K total into it. It does good, but the track is crap and is falling apart and on a recent ride a buckle in the tunnel turned into a crack so he's hunting for a new tunnel. It spools up fast, but he was still tuning the suspension location when it broke. Here's a photo of a nice lightenned apex I saw on SW yesterday.
The boss seats are pretty light....I wonder how they compare to the moto seat.
I agree with the steering linkage..theres some steel in there.
MPI does make the crmoly steering posts, still. 2in and 4in longer than stock @199.00. Save's 2lbs. Costly lbs.
One of our Ton riders has an Apex that he's done the mods to (polaris holz rear, undertunnel exhaust, battery relocate, pod removal, crap off the tunnel, boss seat. It was a front end wreck he bought for $800, and has a only a little over 2K total into it. It does good, but the track is crap and is falling apart and on a recent ride a buckle in the tunnel turned into a crack so he's hunting for a new tunnel. It spools up fast, but he was still tuning the suspension location when it broke. Here's a photo of a nice lightenned apex I saw on SW yesterday.
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kinger
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Keep the stock a arms but go with a custom fab spindle similar to barkbuster nto a lot of money fairly easy to fab and save around 3 lbs
Exhaust how about wrap it up over the motor and down between the oil tank and brake rotor, from 10lbs to 3 maybe saving 7
Apex chain case looks to bolt on. However 05 RX was lightened from the 03's approx 1-2 lbs I think.
Steering connecting link made out of alum not steel (I have one for sale) saves .5lbs
There are a ton of steel brackets where alumn could be used possibly another 1-3lbs there
That is 12.5 for not too much cash.
Exhaust how about wrap it up over the motor and down between the oil tank and brake rotor, from 10lbs to 3 maybe saving 7
Apex chain case looks to bolt on. However 05 RX was lightened from the 03's approx 1-2 lbs I think.
Steering connecting link made out of alum not steel (I have one for sale) saves .5lbs
There are a ton of steel brackets where alumn could be used possibly another 1-3lbs there
That is 12.5 for not too much cash.
maxdlx
Lifetime Member
Can weighs right at 4 lbs, without the y pipe
kinger
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Hye Paul you dont know the model of that yoshi pipe do you? Is it tolerable on the trail or loud as heck?
ViperTurboPete
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Maxd, do you have any pics of what it looks like underneath the tunnel?
I have my rear heat exchanger mounted with a funny bracket so it could be retro-fitted to my Hartman tunnel extension. Just wondering if I installed that pipe you have would blow exhaust on the heat exchanger causing it to heat up rather than cool.
I have my rear heat exchanger mounted with a funny bracket so it could be retro-fitted to my Hartman tunnel extension. Just wondering if I installed that pipe you have would blow exhaust on the heat exchanger causing it to heat up rather than cool.
maxdlx
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I have only ran it on the stand, and know it is way guieter than my gutted stock can was. The guy I bought it from got it in a box of parts from a gsr-1000 suzuki. My rear cooler is behind the rear tunnel piece so it won't get direct heat from the exhaust. I am thinking of maybe closing some of the rear part of the bottom of the tunnel off too, to make the sound have to go out towards the front if it is too loud.
Kachess the boss seat in the last pic you posted is that a shovel pouch on it or the add on storage pouch. I am still looking for a seat. Thanks Maxdlx
ViperTurboPete
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Maxd, Wow that was fast! Thanks for that! The pipe looks to me that it exits to the side. Did you want it that way? Why not have it pointing down?
maxdlx
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it is an oval can, if I point it down the studs would hit the can.
They may hit it nowLOL
They may hit it nowLOL
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