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One of you asked me to heat up, then cool a piece of hyfax, to convince me that it would be tempered, and last longer.
I put a piece 3" from the front of a torpedo heater, until the surface started to melt, then picked it up with pliars, and threw it in the snow. I did this twice, then used a sharp object to scratch, and gouge that one, and the one that wasn't heated. If I had to pick one, I'd say the heated one was softer. There wasn't much difference. If that worked, there would be a company selling heat treated hyfax.
I put a piece 3" from the front of a torpedo heater, until the surface started to melt, then picked it up with pliars, and threw it in the snow. I did this twice, then used a sharp object to scratch, and gouge that one, and the one that wasn't heated. If I had to pick one, I'd say the heated one was softer. There wasn't much difference. If that worked, there would be a company selling heat treated hyfax.
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YOU'RE Right or at least the third to concur
I have buddies who work with plastics and they like other egineer types on this site state, You can not 'temper' plastic like some metals. Friction > heat > soften / wear. Yamadoo
I have buddies who work with plastics and they like other egineer types on this site state, You can not 'temper' plastic like some metals. Friction > heat > soften / wear. YamadooRX1 Yooper
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Thank you Yamadoo
vmaxjohn
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I don't get it either. Maybe this started when someone noticed they're slides heating up on a road, and when they parked the sled in a bank for awhile they cooled, and the track rolled easily again. Usually after they get good and hot, you've taken enough material off to let the wheels take up some weight...
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Treated hifax
You can believe what you want, I have done this for several years now and it works. I can put a pre heated set on and run on ice for many miles with much less wear than with an untreated pair. I don't know the scientific reason for this, but i know it works. For the little extra effort and no cost, I will continue to do it.
You can believe what you want, I have done this for several years now and it works. I can put a pre heated set on and run on ice for many miles with much less wear than with an untreated pair. I don't know the scientific reason for this, but i know it works. For the little extra effort and no cost, I will continue to do it.
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I think a better idea is to ask the guy that put 10,000 miles on his RX-1 last year with the stock ones what he did :?
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Buckeye,
If you ride on ice, and can tell a difference in hyfax, something is wrong. My last 300 miles on marginal conditions (bare ice, and bare ground, I would need a micrometer to detect any wear. I have 1,800 miles, and will probably go another 1,800 miles before replacing them. How do you determine the wear? Do you ride a given distance on ice, then switch to the untempered hyfax, ride the same distance on the same day, and on the same ice, remove both sets, and use a micrometer to find which one had more wear?
If you ride on ice, and can tell a difference in hyfax, something is wrong. My last 300 miles on marginal conditions (bare ice, and bare ground, I would need a micrometer to detect any wear. I have 1,800 miles, and will probably go another 1,800 miles before replacing them. How do you determine the wear? Do you ride a given distance on ice, then switch to the untempered hyfax, ride the same distance on the same day, and on the same ice, remove both sets, and use a micrometer to find which one had more wear?
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Buckeye,
If you ride on ice, and can tell a difference in hyfax, something is wrong. My last 300 miles on marginal conditions (bare ice, and bare ground, I would need a micrometer to detect any wear. I have 1,800 miles, and will probably go another 1,800 miles before replacing them. How do you determine the wear? Do you ride a given distance on ice, then switch to the untempered hyfax, ride the same distance on the same day, and on the same ice, remove both sets, and use a micrometer to find which one had more wear?
If you ride on ice, and can tell a difference in hyfax, something is wrong. My last 300 miles on marginal conditions (bare ice, and bare ground, I would need a micrometer to detect any wear. I have 1,800 miles, and will probably go another 1,800 miles before replacing them. How do you determine the wear? Do you ride a given distance on ice, then switch to the untempered hyfax, ride the same distance on the same day, and on the same ice, remove both sets, and use a micrometer to find which one had more wear?
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Yes I can tell a difference. I am talking a brand new set. Acouple of years ago I put a new untreated set on and wore throught them in 40 miles on the lake with no snow and new ice. I was in a hurry and didn't cure these. I replaced them with a set that I heated a few times and rode the next day, same conditions. Those slides lasted until I sold the sled over 3000 miles later. I only posted what has worked for me and alot of people I have riden with. I don't need to use a micrometer to figure out that it works.
What does your experience of riding 300 miles on slides which are already cured with 1500 miles on have to do with comparing brand new slides that are not cured or broken in yet? If you don't want to try it don't. You can't help those who don't want help. :roll:
What does your experience of riding 300 miles on slides which are already cured with 1500 miles on have to do with comparing brand new slides that are not cured or broken in yet? If you don't want to try it don't. You can't help those who don't want help. :roll:
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The point is that any set of slides can last for thousands of miles, if the track tension is set just so. I can ride on ice now that my slides are worn in.
From the look of them, they haven't worn any more since they had 200 miles on them. I changed them when I put my Camo 3rd window closed track on at 1800 miles. I'm now at 4600 miles, and still have no need to change the slides. I suppose they could wear out between the wheels if I rode nothing but moguls for every, like 3000 miles, but that's not realistic.
Keep doing what works for ya, but others are having fine luck without that final step. May it snow where you ride!
From the look of them, they haven't worn any more since they had 200 miles on them. I changed them when I put my Camo 3rd window closed track on at 1800 miles. I'm now at 4600 miles, and still have no need to change the slides. I suppose they could wear out between the wheels if I rode nothing but moguls for every, like 3000 miles, but that's not realistic.
Keep doing what works for ya, but others are having fine luck without that final step. May it snow where you ride!
