gsxr said:
Yup 0w40 4 stroke amsoil for me. Yes you can run it safely as long as your past your break in period.
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I run 0-40 Mobil-1 and stock yamaha filter. No problems so far. 
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RedRX1 said:
Synthetic is not the same as petroleum based oils that's why when you see Mobil 1 15W-50 you think it is not good for cold weather
But when you READ the label, YOU will find out that it flows down to -50!
How about that
The W in the oil stands for winter flowability or viscosity the lower the number the quicker and better it will flow on initial start up. That is why I use 0W-40 Amsoil full synthetic. Flow easy and fast on initial start up and still gives a 40 weight protection at working engine temp.
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Bottom line is that any oil that is ok by the owners manual is going to work fine. How many miles is the highest service RX1 in the world going to see? 35k miles? The motor will long outlast the rest of the sled.
My 2 cents is that if you have a RX1 that uses oil, don't blow money on synthetic.
T
My 2 cents is that if you have a RX1 that uses oil, don't blow money on synthetic.
T
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The Breakdown on oil
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for all those who have ever wondered about what type/wieght of oil to use, hopefully this helps!
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject:
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the society of automotive engineers(SAE) have established 12 different viscosity grades. vicosity grades will determine the oils dynamic viscosity and kinematic viscosity.
the dynamic viscosity is the first # you see usually followed by a W , which , yes , you can associate that # with winter to help you think of how it performs in cold weather.the SAE has determined 6 grades of "winter" formulas beginning with 0W and working up to 25W in 5 point incriments. what they are measureing with this is the lubricants ability to pump 60,000centipointe units with no yield stress at certain temps. for ex.
0W = 60,000 cP @-40*C
5W = 60,000 cP @-35*C
10W = 60,000 cP @ -30*C and so on till 25Wwhich is 60,000 cP@-15
basically the smaller the # the better protection for colder temps.
the next # measures the lubricants ability to pour or its kinemetric viscosity, which is measured by the time it takes an oil to pour out of a container. the temp. is always consistant at 100*C (212*F)
this is #ered from 20 -60 in 10 pt incriments and is measured using sabolt universal second(sus) for ex.
sae20@100*c will empty in min.5.6sus and a max. of9.3sus
30 = 9.3sus - 12.5sus
40 = 12.5sus- 16.3sus
60 = 21.9sus - 26.1sus
in other words the oil will empty out of the container just by pouring in 5.6 seconds (roughly) to 9.3 seconds
remember you do not want your oil viscosity to thin in hot temps. because you will lose you ability to lubricate and protect your engine.
a good ex is this. a truck driver leaves florida with a load of oranges heading for minnesota, in fla. he runs SAE 30 oil because of the ambient temp. in fla. when he (or she) get to min. the driver finds the SAE 30 is to viscious or thick to handle the sub zero temps and is having a hard time starting the vehicle. after changing oil to an SAE 15W the starting problem is solved and he can continue on. when he gets back to fla. he finds the SAE 15W is to thin due to the high temps. in fla. therefore the lubricant can not protect the engine like it should.
thus, they have made multi viscosity oils. the point is not that a certain oil is thicker or thinner because under different circumstances they will all flow the same it just depends on the temp. of the product.
how many times have we been in the north woods and the temp. has been -30* one day and 30* the next? i've seen it! make sure you choose an oil that is best for your climate and has a broad viscosity range to cover those sudden changes in weather!
basically the ultimate protection for any motor would be a 0W-60 but the viscosity range of that oil is nearly impossible to achieve
i run amsoil 0W-40 four stroke in mine and i love it!
next post on different comparitive tests run by the american petroleum institute(API) and exactly how and why an oil breaks down !
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my head hurts after writing all of this!!!
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The Breakdown on oil
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for all those who have ever wondered about what type/wieght of oil to use, hopefully this helps!
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject:
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the society of automotive engineers(SAE) have established 12 different viscosity grades. vicosity grades will determine the oils dynamic viscosity and kinematic viscosity.
the dynamic viscosity is the first # you see usually followed by a W , which , yes , you can associate that # with winter to help you think of how it performs in cold weather.the SAE has determined 6 grades of "winter" formulas beginning with 0W and working up to 25W in 5 point incriments. what they are measureing with this is the lubricants ability to pump 60,000centipointe units with no yield stress at certain temps. for ex.
0W = 60,000 cP @-40*C
5W = 60,000 cP @-35*C
10W = 60,000 cP @ -30*C and so on till 25Wwhich is 60,000 cP@-15
basically the smaller the # the better protection for colder temps.
the next # measures the lubricants ability to pour or its kinemetric viscosity, which is measured by the time it takes an oil to pour out of a container. the temp. is always consistant at 100*C (212*F)
this is #ered from 20 -60 in 10 pt incriments and is measured using sabolt universal second(sus) for ex.
sae20@100*c will empty in min.5.6sus and a max. of9.3sus
30 = 9.3sus - 12.5sus
40 = 12.5sus- 16.3sus
60 = 21.9sus - 26.1sus
in other words the oil will empty out of the container just by pouring in 5.6 seconds (roughly) to 9.3 seconds
remember you do not want your oil viscosity to thin in hot temps. because you will lose you ability to lubricate and protect your engine.
a good ex is this. a truck driver leaves florida with a load of oranges heading for minnesota, in fla. he runs SAE 30 oil because of the ambient temp. in fla. when he (or she) get to min. the driver finds the SAE 30 is to viscious or thick to handle the sub zero temps and is having a hard time starting the vehicle. after changing oil to an SAE 15W the starting problem is solved and he can continue on. when he gets back to fla. he finds the SAE 15W is to thin due to the high temps. in fla. therefore the lubricant can not protect the engine like it should.
thus, they have made multi viscosity oils. the point is not that a certain oil is thicker or thinner because under different circumstances they will all flow the same it just depends on the temp. of the product.
how many times have we been in the north woods and the temp. has been -30* one day and 30* the next? i've seen it! make sure you choose an oil that is best for your climate and has a broad viscosity range to cover those sudden changes in weather!
basically the ultimate protection for any motor would be a 0W-60 but the viscosity range of that oil is nearly impossible to achieve
i run amsoil 0W-40 four stroke in mine and i love it!
next post on different comparitive tests run by the american petroleum institute(API) and exactly how and why an oil breaks down !
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my head hurts after writing all of this!!! __________________
Good post sleddheadd! You should think of writing a complete thread and put it in the tech section under its own heading called understanding oil grades and what they mean type of thing.
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i could probably do that but i wouldn't know where to start..... i'm not real computer savy! lol.....
and by the way as long as an oil meets your recomended specs from the manufacturer , it is ok to run that! we all have our preference on brands but the important thing is to meet manufacturer specs., it is ok to go above them just not below! then your warrenty would be void.
and by the way as long as an oil meets your recomended specs from the manufacturer , it is ok to run that! we all have our preference on brands but the important thing is to meet manufacturer specs., it is ok to go above them just not below! then your warrenty would be void.
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on the Amsoil. I use it in just about everything I own.
The amsoil product itself is its best advertisement as you see here people talk.
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Sled Dog said:
Just about everything I read on it it seems to surpass most oils. I have a 2001 Chevy van with 160,000 miles on it and I am amazed at how strong this truck still runs. Sits out in Chicago Winters and last few nights have been damn cold. I am no pussy foot wth it either. I still bring it up to redline in passing on the highway at times and I don't have a problem doing it. Anyone who has borrowed it can't believe the miles for how it runs.
Good to know that oil is in it. I run the oil 7500 miles since I do mostly highway driving. They claim I can go something like 25K on their best oil but damn that just seems long!
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I'm an employee at the Conoco/Phillips Billings refinery and here's what I run.
I run Castrol Syntec 5W-30 in every vehicle I own. I have allways ran Castrol oils due to their anti-sludge properties. All oils are designed for protection to the levels of their ratings; it's the anti-sludge properties that I look at when purchasing an oil.
FYI my local Daimler Benz/Chrysler dealer uses Castrol or Conoco products only when servicing their customers vehicles. Another good oil for heavy duty purposes is the Shell Rotella T 15W-40.
Jim
I run Castrol Syntec 5W-30 in every vehicle I own. I have allways ran Castrol oils due to their anti-sludge properties. All oils are designed for protection to the levels of their ratings; it's the anti-sludge properties that I look at when purchasing an oil.
FYI my local Daimler Benz/Chrysler dealer uses Castrol or Conoco products only when servicing their customers vehicles. Another good oil for heavy duty purposes is the Shell Rotella T 15W-40.
Jim
