Jump ship, Lighten my Apex mnt. or buy lightened Nytro MTX ?

[GotJuice]

I need your advice, I like many aspects of my Apex Mnt. but it's a big heavy sled and In hard or crusty snow I really feel the weight. This makes for a long day of riding, I end up feeling like the sled is riding me by the end of the day. In the powder it's great...awesome, but half of the riding yearly isn't in deep powder. I would like to either lighten this sled more or go to another lighter more nimble platform. I've done many things to my sled but not the major weight decreasing modifications. I've the oil filter relocation kit, Ulmer air box, CR10 plugs, under tunnel custom Hauck exhaust, Boss seat, relocate battery to under rear seat, gold finger, higher risers, gas shock in rear skid with heavy torsion springs, Timber sled drop brackets, Fox floats in the front, removed rack and bumper replaced with CrRacing bumper. I believe I've removed 30-ish lbs from the sled maybe a little more.
If I keep the sled I would do the tunnel, Timbersled front and rear suspension, this would drop another 65lbs but the sled would still be front heavy and big over all.
If I go with a Nytro it will have Timbersled front and rear suspension, CR tunnel and an under tunnel pipe. This should drop 70 lbs from stock and the design over all would be more nimble I would think? I've not ridden one so I'm not sure how they feel in bad conditions, (hard or crusty snow)
My 2 stroke preference would be an 800 Dragon 155, M8 153 , Summit X 154 and run them stock, maybe add a can and clutching but that's about it. YES I understand the quality isn't as good and they smoke BUT I ride once or twice weekly for 4-5 months and I want to enjoy the sled not fight it or feel like on harder snow days the sled is riding me. I think the only way to get around that is to go to another platform. I'm asking advice because I have no experience on the other sleds but know that if I dump anothr 4000.00 into my sled it's still going to be over 600 lbs ready to ride. If I do the tunnel, pipe & front/rear suspension on the Nytro I could get down to around 550 ready to ride, maybe even less with a few other things done, keeping the Yamaha dependability and 4 stroke benefits. This obviously wouldn't be cheap but in the long run a better investment compared to the 2 smokes. Those of you who have a Nytro and have ridden the mentioned other brands could you give me your comparisons on the weight, feel, etc. I really appreciate everyones input as I live in rural Alaska and don't have dealers around the corner , Thanks!

 

[JJWickenhauser]

A bigger bullet requires more gun powder!! Add a turbo or a S/C and hang on. This will improve your power to weight ratio and should make this sled a TON easier to ride!! Especially with the reliability they have had with these kits. If you keep your eyes peeled on here adn SnoWest you'll find a good deal every now and again.

Nytro is also a very nice choice. I've ridden them both, Nytro feels snappy like an Apex, but you can tell a lot of the weight isn't there.

Hope that helps

Justin

 

[niko]

I think you should check your weights as the parts you have taken off add up to alot more than 35pounds. Also with the other mods you plan to do you should get the sled down to 500pounds no problems.

niko.

 

[GotJuice]

Thanks guys

JJ and Niko, thank you. I feel like no matter how much power you have you still can't hammer the gas through technical off camber side hills on hard snow. In the powder 12" or more it's not bad the deeper the snow the lighter it feels but man in 6" of powder and riding over hard rutted out hills etc. you can feel every lb of the beast! If I go ahead and modify the tunnel, the front and rear skid I'll loose another 65lbs and then what? I could loose another 10lbs from removing the stock hood & head light housing etc. but that's about it. I will still be 600+ lbs ready to ride and not as nimble as a Dragon or Nytro per say?

 

[bashley]

I got to ride the Nytro MTX last year and that sucker is way more nimble than the Apex. I didn't get to ride it in the mountains, just untouched powder on the river, but it was a good experience. The front end begs for sidehilling and carving. The power was plenty, noticeably less getting off my Attak and onto this but still very impressive. Would be a total BadA** with a S/C or turbo.

If I was to get a mountain sled next year it would be the one. The Apex would be great with boost in a highmarking competition, but I wouldn't want it for anything more.

 

[WANN4STROKE]

I am with Bashley. Have a 2006 Apex Mtn and wish I had held out for the MTX after riding one last weekend. Now I'll be waiting to see how the XTX performs.

David