Just rode 2011 apex. CAN YOU SAY WEAPON!!!

[Rocketman]

I'm writing this fresh off my ride. For those who don't know me, I am/was the owner of Avant-edge Motorsport. It started as a labour of love that turned into all labour. Anyhow to the good stuff. Bought new nytro xtx about 3 weeks ago. My cover was missing a tie strap so i stopped at my dealer Jack and Jills in Midland Ontario Canada. As walked up the steps and in the front door i glanced at two Yamaha's sitting out front. I didn't pay that much attension but they looked slightly different, i put it down to the distance i was from the sleds. While Dwayne (Owner) was taking care of a strap for my cover a asked what was the deadline for deposits on next years machines. Thats when he told me he had 2 Apex pre-pro's in the parking lot. Now Dwayne's ridden the sled and can tell you he knows how to sell. Within about 90 seconds i had his coat helmet an gloves on. This was special, he told me i was was the guy guy he'd this for.
Now i've hade a sled or two with big power, i'm not joe racer but i know when somthing works well. I've had 800 v max 4 with first choise turbo, RX-1 with CPR lake race turbo and just about everthing in between.

Did i mention that the lake is right behind Jack and Jills dealership.

One was the RXT with the foxes and the other the XTX. The 144 was the one Dwayne suggested i believe because they were not studded.

Jump on and ride and you are presented with a new sensation that is truly, TRULY spectular. This is a new dynamic that is diffficult to put into words. Yamaha has taken everthing that is negative about steering a snowmobile ANY SNOWMOBILE and reduced it by a power of 10. Now I'll be the first to admit i did't trail ride it long but here's whats happened.
The power steering has given Yamaha the ultimate freedom to set the sled up for handling without any negative affect regarding feedback into the handlbars. I"m telling You, one ride and its Over, gota have it. If you watch the Lester boy's interview, (supertrax) they are so mesmerised their over compensating to down play their test ride. I know what they felt, but it won't be a big deal until at least 2 manufactures have it. Especially when Yamaha (CR) hade it first. OH yea, back to the lake.

Down off the trail and on to the big flat piece. 3" of soft stuff, ridden on but not hard pack. Roll up to 30 40 mph (no studds) and whack it!
This f#!#!#?><@!#$% thing explodes! I"m telling you in mid range this thing is a heartbeat off a turbo Apex at 8#'s boost. I know you won't believe me but it's all there. i feel the the clutch's free wheeling, the tach say's 10,200 but i bet she'll take another gm. on each arm. Top end say's i'm just gona keep on pullin till you back off. I saw 183 KM. on the dream meter, i don't know what calibration is like but we were rockin. Remember
this is not even hard pac. I did probly 7-8 roll on's like this, i was hopen somone would come along but it didn't happen. Lucky for them!!!

I gotta tell you, this sled made me an instant owner. It is the most impressive piece of equipment i'v ever had the pleasure of driving.
Thanks Jack and Jill's Motorsport for a preview of my next years knock out punch from Yamaha.

 

[Mighty]

I hope you didn't soil the seat...........

 

[morrisond]

Too bad you didn't try the 128 under the same conditions as then we would know what was faster, but from what your saying the XTX may work as well vs the 121 skid on the Nytro. The XTX skid is said to be worth 5-6 mph due to the shallower approach angle....

Somebody please line them up on a lake for at least 1/2 mile and try them on your test ride.

 

[MadMax]

All that's cool and all "BUT" ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Pause...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Did ya like it ???????????? MM.

 

[Apex2006]

Awesome and thanks for the report!! So, after much discussion, what is different with the motor that makes it rip similar to the turbo?

 

[Turk]

Hey Rick... thanx. I really didn,t need that!
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We get our demo rides on Wednesday out here!
If the xtx is all you say it is the cheque book might have to come out!!
If the xtx can do deep snow as well as my nytro xtx i might have to make the jump!

 

[loudelectronics]

See you on Wednesday Turk!

 

[Rocketman]

By the way these sleds had no funky numbers or letters on them. They looked right out of the show room. I was so excited my johnson was covering the odo so i don't know how many km. were/was on it.
By the way that was 183km and still creeping. i could tell clutching was off, one of many combo's there trying i'm sure.

Somthing i have never felt. This is the first time i've driven a sled and felt i would be happy with power wise just as it is,.................................................... well O.K. maybe just some clutching.Ha
Gas and go, no wrenching, reliability, big power, handling and looks!!!!
WOT all the way down the lake, anything that will keep up or go faster WILL be broken.

By the way i like some weight in the front end when i'm 120mph in case i hit a small pressure crack, less chance of a yard sale!!

Nice thing is i don't feel the weight nearly as much, I"m sold

I might get another bounce on it, i'll report back with more info.

 

[RtxViper]

you sold me on this sled. I was skeptical on the price, but I have yet to hear a bad report about it. I am willing to pay top dollar for something as great as this new sled appears to be. Great report. Is the midrange pull similar to the nytro or better?

 

[fourload]

Nice report!!!! 183KM/HR=113.7MPH. Hope these sleds have a more accurate speedo than ours do. Conditions like this on our lake I can reach anywhere between 118-121 on my speedo. That is about 104-107 real speeds. If this sled can run 6 or 7 mph better than my good running GT in these conditions I will be one happy camper!!!!!!!!! It should be an easy 120mph sled on good ice stock...

 

[RunninRX1]

you sold me on this sled. I was skeptical on the price, but I have yet to hear a bad report about it. I am willing to pay top dollar for something as great as this new sled appears to be. Great report. Is the midrange pull similar to the nytro or better?

I rode them back to back.. midrange pull on the Apex is better, much better than the Nytro and the Nytro is one strong mofo. I rode both Nytro XTX and Nytro RTX SE. I did not get a chance to compare to the 2011 Apex XTX but those 128's pulled harder midrange for sure.

I went to the dealership today to buy one, but I really need to ride the Apex XTX before I decide. Either way there will be a 2011 Apex in my garage for sure.

 

[AttakDog]

Hey Rick... thanx. I really didn,t need that!
.
We get our demo rides on Wednesday out here!
If the xtx is all you say it is the cheque book might have to come out!!
If the xtx can do deep snow as well as my nytro xtx i might have to make the jump!

Looking forward to your thoughts Turk. Run the crap out of them!

 

[jds1000]

Yesterday I rode the Apex XTX and the Apex SE in Mayville NY. I was expecting a huge difference from my 06 Apex and other than the higher seating position the new Apex feels like my 06. My wife and I couldn't tell any difference between the Apex with power steering or the 2010 Apex that we rode on the demo ride. We were switching back and forth between 8 new power steering equiped Apex's and a 2010 Apex and 2010 Nytro XTX. Everybody in my group couldn't tell the new Apex's had power steering. We told this to the Yamaha rep and he said it was because we were riding in loose snow. All the Apex's darted except the one they had with dual carbides. The funny part was the Yamaha rep was so excited about the one with the dual carbides and made sure we all a chance to ride it. I was tempted to tell him that My Apex and my wifes Nytro didn't dart because I have Pilot skis on them. My wife didn't like the new Apex because she felt it was very tank like and didn't turn worth a damn. She liked the Nytro XTX the best but prefered her 08 Nytro to any and every sled that we rode and we rode them all. I couldn't tell any difference in the power of the new Apex because we were trail riding not racing. I did notice my ears were ringing after the demo and I think this new Apex while just as loud as my old one has a higher pitch to it. The good about this new sled is the Mono shock works very well but no better than my 06. I was expecting this great new sled and to my surprise nothing has changed other than the seating position. My opinion is the power steering is a big gimmick and the only huge change in this new Apex is the price tag. I think Yamaha just laid its biggest egg and it a very expensive egg to boot.

 

[fourload]

Yesterday I rode the Apex XTX and the Apex SE in Mayville NY. I was expecting a huge difference from my 06 Apex and other than the higher seating position the new Apex feels like my 06. My wife and I couldn't tell any difference between the Apex with power steering or the 2010 Apex that we rode on the demo ride. We were switching back and forth between 8 new power steering equiped Apex's and a 2010 Apex and 2010 Nytro XTX. Everybody in my group couldn't tell the new Apex's had power steering. We told this to the Yamaha rep and he said it was because we were riding in loose snow. All the Apex's darted except the one they had with dual carbides. The funny part was the Yamaha rep was so excited about the one with the dual carbides and made sure we all a chance to ride it. I was tempted to tell him that My Apex and my wifes Nytro didn't dart because I have Pilot skis on them. My wife didn't like the new Apex because she felt it was very tank like and didn't turn worth a damn. She liked the Nytro XTX the best but prefered her 08 Nytro to any and every sled that we rode and we rode them all. I couldn't tell any difference in the power of the new Apex because we were trail riding not racing. I did notice my ears were ringing after the demo and I think this new Apex while just as loud as my old one has a higher pitch to it. The good about this new sled is the Mono shock works very well but no better than my 06. I was expecting this great new sled and to my surprise nothing has changed other than the seating position. My opinion is the power steering is a big gimmick and the only huge change in this new Apex is the price tag. I think Yamaha just laid its biggest egg and it a very expensive egg to boot.

Wow that's depressing!!!

 

[RtxViper]

[quoteYesterday I rode the Apex XTX and the Apex SE in Mayville NY. I was expecting a huge difference from my 06 Apex and other than the higher seating position the new Apex feels like my 06. My wife and I couldn't tell any difference between the Apex with power steering or the 2010 Apex that we rode on the demo ride. We were switching back and forth between 8 new power steering equiped Apex's and a 2010 Apex and 2010 Nytro XTX. Everybody in my group couldn't tell the new Apex's had power steering. We told this to the Yamaha rep and he said it was because we were riding in loose snow. All the Apex's darted except the one they had with dual carbides. The funny part was the Yamaha rep was so excited about the one with the dual carbides and made sure we all a chance to ride it. I was tempted to tell him that My Apex and my wifes Nytro didn't dart because I have Pilot skis on them. My wife didn't like the new Apex because she felt it was very tank like and didn't turn worth a damn. She liked the Nytro XTX the best but prefered her 08 Nytro to any and every sled that we rode and we rode them all. I couldn't tell any difference in the power of the new Apex because we were trail riding not racing. I did notice my ears were ringing after the demo and I think this new Apex while just as loud as my old one has a higher pitch to it. The good about this new sled is the Mono shock works very well but no better than my 06. I was expecting this great new sled and to my surprise nothing has changed other than the seating position. My opinion is the power steering is a big gimmick and the only huge change in this new Apex is the price tag. I think Yamaha just laid its biggest egg and it a very expensive egg to boot.

Thats the first bit of negative feedback I have read from anyone that has ridden this sled. I will say though everyone is a bit partial to the sled they own and drive. I have friends with nytro's such as Stopdropandrolls (another ty member I ride with) and every time I ride it I can't wait to get off of it and vise versa. They are totally different sleds and you really cant compare them side by side. Stritctly my opinion. As far as the power steering goes I have c&a razors with 9" shaper bars on my apex 144" and it steers like butter in the loose snow but as soon as it gets cold on a hardpacked groomed trail it steers like a tank. This is where i think the power steering would be great. Again just my opinion, our demo ride around here isn't until the end of march so I will have to wait till then to check it out. Thanks for the feedback[/quote]