gc_srt
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I was thinking about changing my stock A-Arms to MTX SE A-Arms for $200 but curious what everone's thoughts are? Looks like it would change the ski stance from 41.3 to 40.7 inches comparing the two sleds. Not sure if I have to change the entire front end out or just the A-arms. I assume I would have to do the tie rods as well.
Has anyone does this yet? FYI, the skinz front end kit is not in the cards this year. Also, I already removed the sway bar so that is not an issue.
Has anyone does this yet? FYI, the skinz front end kit is not in the cards this year. Also, I already removed the sway bar so that is not an issue.
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The a arms are identical to the xtx. All you might be changing is the color.
If you want performance difference than you need to go Skinz or Zbros.
If you want performance difference than you need to go Skinz or Zbros.
gc_srt
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So what change in ski stance? Is it the spindles or the ski mount? I have simmon skis with the XTX and MTX Ski mount and I was thinking to change to the MTX mount and purchase the MTX bolt guide and spacers. I was hoping I could narrow the skis by an inch or so. (The sled currently is over 48" wide).
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48 inches sounds way to high. Measure from center of spindle to center on the other side. On the newer nytros the arms are all the same but skistance is changed by moving spacers on the ski mount
gc_srt
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That is not the centre to centre distance but rather the outside distance with the 8" Simmon Gen 3 skis on it.
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I've got '10 MTX SE arms on my 09 and there was no difference in the arms at all, well other then the lower ball joints.
If you are looking to go a little narrower, move the spacers to the inside of the spindle. Otherwise you will need aftermarket arms, Mountaintech will be the cheapest if your floats don't have the spherical bearings already.
If you are looking to go a little narrower, move the spacers to the inside of the spindle. Otherwise you will need aftermarket arms, Mountaintech will be the cheapest if your floats don't have the spherical bearings already.
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s1d3w1nd3r1480
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What are you trying to accomplish with a narrower stance? I have Fox Floats on my 2011 XTX with sway bar removed and spacers all to the inside of my spindle and my stance is 1/2" narrower than my cousins MTX with his smallest spacer (not sure thickness) on the outside of the spindle and the rest inside. The sled easy significantly easier to roll from side to side than it was before I made these changes. I personally wouldn't use the crossover valve as plenty of personal experience with stumps and rocks on hills it isn't worth risking my shock for the minimal benefit. This is just my 2 cents.
If I were you I would just move all your spacers to the inside of your skis as they are right now and ride it for now. By the time you invest in the hardware to gain that inch you might as well save up the money for new a-arms later on. This is what I am doing. I came the the conclusion narrowing the stance any more than it is currently won't have any positive benefits handling wise unless the spindles are moved forward.
If I were you I would just move all your spacers to the inside of your skis as they are right now and ride it for now. By the time you invest in the hardware to gain that inch you might as well save up the money for new a-arms later on. This is what I am doing. I came the the conclusion narrowing the stance any more than it is currently won't have any positive benefits handling wise unless the spindles are moved forward.
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The only arms worth spending money on are arms that move the spindle forward. Totally changes the handling of a Nytro......for the better. Once you do this you, you don't have to go as narrow.
gc_srt
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I am overall happy with the handling of my sled - still working on the correct psi on the fox floats. I have them set at about 55psi which is nice for throwing it around but crumby in the corners without a sway bar; I run 90% off trail. I haven't put on the reservoirs yet so I will have to adjust them again after that.
For the cross-over valve, I wouldn't be using it that often. I would only be using it for situation where I am sidehilling down the hill where it is extremely difficult to throw it over. I am about 230lb with gear and I have troubles throwing the sled over in a downhill siutation.
The main reason why I want to narrow the stance is trying to fit it on a trailer (under 48") which is tough with 8" skis on the front. I did buy the mtx hardware for Simmons ski ($50 for approximately 20mm - I have the mtx and the xtx mounting kit for the skis) and I may switch out my Gen 3's with Gen 1's which will take off 2" off my outside measurement. (I am not going to buy the skis but rather swap them out)
For the cross-over valve, I wouldn't be using it that often. I would only be using it for situation where I am sidehilling down the hill where it is extremely difficult to throw it over. I am about 230lb with gear and I have troubles throwing the sled over in a downhill siutation.
The main reason why I want to narrow the stance is trying to fit it on a trailer (under 48") which is tough with 8" skis on the front. I did buy the mtx hardware for Simmons ski ($50 for approximately 20mm - I have the mtx and the xtx mounting kit for the skis) and I may switch out my Gen 3's with Gen 1's which will take off 2" off my outside measurement. (I am not going to buy the skis but rather swap them out)
