NEED HELP clutching with heavyhitters !!!

[Yamanator]

I just picked up a complete set from a guy who could not get them dialed in right. So here is my question, who has a good starting point for a stock 03 shorty with aftermarket exhaust ? I would like to know where to put the weights and get these to work. Also is there anything else I should do to the stock clutching to work with these ? like change the twist in the secondary ! change any springs ! or should I change the helix ?
I know it's alot of questions but I am new to clutching, I would have called Matt at the speedshop, but since I did not buy this set from him I don't think it is proper to ask him for a setup. If anybody else can shed a little light on this it would be greatly appreciated.

Oh yeah, do you need any special tools for changing the clutches around ?
(I told you I was new at this)

 

[Yamanator]

C'mon guy's, somebody should have a starting point for me.
oh yeah, my sled is not studded and has a 1 inch predator track in it, and I weigh about 230.

PLEASE HELP ME :cry: :cry:

 

[Ted Jannetty]

The base line set up for an RX1 is this, 3/4 allen in heel, 7/16 bolt and thick washer in the middle and tip.
I feel this is not enough weight in the heel and too much in the tip so what I run is a 1/4 and 3/4 allen in the heel, a 7/16 bolt and thick washer in the middle, and a 3/8 bolt and thin washer in the tip.
Leave everything else alone untill you try it for about 250 miles and report back.
You need a sheave clamp to hold the clutch compressed while changing out the weights, you can purchase one from any of the many performance shops across the country.

Hope this helps

Ted.

 

[Yamanator]

Thank you so much for the reply Ted, when you say leave everything else alone are you talking about twist on secondary and changing of the helix ?
I have heard that these weights really work well with these changes, what are your thought's ?

again thak you for the reply.

 

[yamaha-423]

Yamanator, what gram weight's do you have?

 

[Yamanator]

everything that came with the kit, I have not seen it yet because the friend that I bought it from just gave it to another friend where I will be installing it tonight. He has all the tool's required to do the job and has alot more experience with clutching then I do. I understand that the kit does come with its own weights and washers and stuff, but are you saying that I might need more ? if so my buddy has extra weights.

 

[Buckeye]

There are 2 different base weights available. 48.? or 51.? grams. The ones you have will determine how much you add to them. Definitely use the 2 allen screws in the heel. If you get another helix, I like the Dalton 54-44 or one that finishes between 42 & 44. I also think that the silver spring is over rated. I like the pink or white which are stiffer and offer beltter backshifting and less belt slippage. If you use the silver, it needs to be set at at least 6-2. Your total weight per weight should be somewhere near 64 grams, unless you ride alot of powder. Then it should be less.

 

[Ted Jannetty]

When your mother told you to leave everthing alone what did you do :lol:

You need to base line one change at a time or serious confusion sets in, probably what happened to the guy you got the weights from.

 

[Straightliner]

You can also try 3/4 in heel & center with 3/8 bolt and thin washer with 7/16 in tip with steel washer & thin washer. A little less in heal and center will let you carry more tip weight and help raise engagement a little and also help pull on far end. I was running stock 51/43 helix secondary silver at 80% with 170/300 motor clutch spring. But who knows might work with stock springs secondary set at 60 or 70 or 80 degrees have to try. (Later)

 

[jwifferdill]

What is the base weight on a set of RX1 HH? I have the SRX Heavy Hitters and I got the 48 gram base weight. Good thing I don't have porting, or I would not be able to load the tip down enough to keep the rpms where they need to be.

 

[Turk]

The base rx-1 hh,s weigh approx 48.8 grams. With my super dooper magic helix mine are loaded up to about 60.6 grams.

 

[Buckeye]

I thought the SRX weights were the 51. grams weights. The viper and RX-1 were the 48. weights.
Turk I'll bet you are running more than 60 grams now or will be soon. How is it progressing? :lol:

 

[ken_climb]

Hey guy's I finally got my turbo installed with two rides in so far.Very impressed but I need some clutching help.I initially tried viper weights loaded up a bit with smaller rollers and a lighter spring cause every one said I would have a lag problem.It turns out lag doesn't seem to be a problem at all.I pin it and it goes right to the rev limiter and keeps sputtering off it till I let off ,so I have to slowly roll on the throttle and on the trail is still bounces off the rev limiter.Whats the heaviest yami weights and rivets that I can throw in this thing?should I loaed up some srx weights?

 

[Ted Jannetty]

Turk with my helix, mine are loaded to 64.9 grams.
We were pretty much unbeatable this weekend at Lake Morey VT.
Pulls 10,400 consistantly.

 

[Toolman]

I run the 1/2 allen, 3/8 aluminum, and the 1/2 brass and 1 brass washer.
Very good acceleration and killer top end. Runs 10500. Works very, very well.