Nytro MTX SE Fox Skid mounted on XTX 144" Rails

[NytroMisfit]

Yeah definitely not found of the xtx setup. I put float 2's on the front and would like to do the float setup in the back

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[herndonp]

I weigh 240 without gear and have the stock XTX suspension and run the torsion springs on medium. What fixed the skid for me was pulling it out and sending shocks to Hygear to revalve for my weight and riding style using their sport package and dual rate spring on front skid shock. Its so much better after those changes!!! I put 2500 on them last year and re-sent shocks out this year for a refresh. Problem is no snow!! Anyway just doing that made an incredible difference in the sled.

Pete

 

[m.schuey7]

HERNDONP,

I though about re-valving also and I'm sure its a big step in the right direction but probably quite a bit more expensive than what I ended up doing with no weight savings and still would need to deal with the sag, torsion spring and transfer rods. three things I wanted to eliminate from my skid.

 

[Turtle]

HERNDONP,

I though about re-valving also and I'm sure its a big step in the right direction but probably quite a bit more expensive than what I ended up doing with no weight savings and still would need to deal with the sag, torsion spring and transfer rods. three things I wanted to eliminate from my skid.

I think what you did is awesome! I thought for a long time that converting the telescoping hokie-thing over to a traditional scissors joint was the ticket. The Star Suspension kit seems to do a similar thing by making a kit using the existing parts (which I think makes it more complicated than it needs to be). But I often wondered if one could use parts from the short track RTX and convert it. You did it with the MTX parts - very cool. By using the MTX parts it looks like you have to use a Float because the MTX part doesn't accommodate a torsion spring. If the RTX parts would work, then one could still use the torsion spring if they wanted to and then maybe even add a coupling block if that's the riding style someone is looking for. Although, I never got a chance to try this out and have since convert over to the Viper. But kudos to you. Nice work - love it!

 

[m.schuey7]

gade-thrasher,

Thanks Bro,

The Regular MTX uses the same suspension as the XTX, only the MTX SE has the Fox set-up with no torsion springs or transfer rods.

 

[Turtle]

So if one wanted to keep the torsion springs, the would use the regular MTX instead of the MTX SE?


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[m.schuey7]

Yes,
Regular MTX is identical to XTX (probably the lower models) The MTX SE has the upgraded rear suspension. Yamaha claims a 25lbs weight savings but on my scale it was about half that.

 

[m.schuey7]

Have finished three rides with the new rear suspension. Somehow this new suspension has helped the sled to turn in better, less low and mid speed understeer, also seems to help the sled rotate through a corner better. Riding in wet fresh snow, fresh cold snow and icy fresh groomed.

 

[SnoBird888]

any more rides on it late in the season? Im about to start this once i pick up a skid this weekend.

 

[Douglas.Lokker]

I weigh 240 without gear and have the stock XTX suspension and run the torsion springs on medium. What fixed the skid for me was pulling it out and sending shocks to Hygear to revalve for my weight and riding style using their sport package and dual rate spring on front skid shock. Its so much better after those changes!!! I put 2500 on them last year and re-sent shocks out this year for a refresh. Problem is no snow!! Anyway just doing that made an incredible difference in the sled.

Pete

Do you remember about how much that set up cost you from Hygear?

 

[herndonp]

I think it was under $250 for the 2 rear shocks for the sport package. If you give them a call they can quote you based on what you want. Great bunch of guys.

Pete

 

[m.schuey7]

Snobird888,

My last ride last season was on un-groomed VERY rough trails, I'm running almost max air pressure, the rear shocks felt overwhelmed in these conditions at higher speeds. I'm going to re-valve both shocks to stiffer valving. This is the only flaw I can find with this set-up for my riding style, otherwise the sled is better everywhere else.

 

[dubla92]

I would highly recommend the Star Kit for the XTX. 4 Seaasons now and it is night and day better with the scissor block vs the transfer rod. The transfer rods are the number one source of all the rear suspension problems in the XTX. As for the MTX SE conversion I think it is a worthy mod for those that ride off trail but definitely not for a trail rider. That small rear Float cannot do what 2 torsion springs and a HPG shock can. Star Kit is worth the money!

 

[SnoBird888]

I would highly recommend the Star Kit for the XTX. 4 Seaasons now and it is night and day better with the scissor block vs the transfer rod. The transfer rods are the number one source of all the rear suspension problems in the XTX. As for the MTX SE conversion I think it is a worthy mod for those that ride off trail but definitely not for a trail rider. That small rear Float cannot do what 2 torsion springs and a HPG shock can. Star Kit is worth the money!

We shall see this winter! I ride everything from the best groomed trails to washed out saturday afternoon trails. So far my impressions in the garage seem good and am excited to try it on the trail!

 

[pedros83]

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