Nytro XTX suspension Sag

[Marmaduke2011]

I've got a 2011 Nytro xtx and it now has 600km on it. It seems like the rear suspension is sagging, anyone else having this problem?

 

[yam429]

Get the Star Suspension Linkage Kit this will eliminate it. They all do it.

 

[yamahahaapex]

there is a link on it that is active, waiting to see ride reviews first

 

[Yamaporn]

Easiest solution (and cheapest) - get a torsion spring spacer from Hygear suspension. Install it yourself super easily. I have an 09 XTX and installed this in the 2nd season - works great and no problems. Check it out here:

http://www.hygearsuspension.com/hygears ... hp?c=1&p=1

 

[mike3577]

Mines the same way,cant never tell when riding it,it is weird though ride it like you stole it!!!

 

[canoehead]

I went with Hygears and X-Click 4 sided cams. Got it out!!

 

[mike3577]

Anyone got a pic of these installed on their sled?

 

[Beenba]

Easiest solution (and cheapest) - get a torsion spring spacer from Hygear suspension. Install it yourself super easily. I have an 09 XTX and installed this in the 2nd season - works great and no problems. Check it out here:

http://www.hygearsuspension.com/hygears ... hp?c=1&p=1

I disagree. I went with the spacers last year to eliminate the sag, and it didn't help at all. I still think the spacers are a great investment since they allow the coil spring to wind like it should, but they do not eliminate the sag. It made 0 difference with my sled. Had 4.5" before, and 4.5" after installation. Others have had success with them, but not everyone. Going to stiffer springs works, but sacrifices having a softer setup.

I would agree that getting new spring blocks with a stiffer setting will help, but I see it as a band-aid fix. You are sacrificing ride quality making the preload too stiff, having a bumpier/stiffer ride IMO.

I bought and installed the Star Suspensions kit last week. Some people on here had it installed last year and loved it (I also wanted to wait and read reviews).
Seems this year even more people are buying it.
With this kit, I am hoping to have all the sag eliminated (from the friction in the slide rods), but just looking at the Force vs Distance graph posted over on his site, it also claims to improve the progressiveness of the rear suspension....(I like graphs, and its a nice one This kit should give you more useable travel (sag eliminated) without being very stiff it seems.
I cant wait to get some miles on it, I'm confident it's going to work great!
I will update once we get snow, I hope.

 

[Beenba]

Anyone got a pic of these installed on their sled?

Here are some pics I took since my skid is out. Hope they help.

Spring spacers. (These are not hygear, I machined my own and did the calculations for max OD size so the spring will not bind)

Here is the OEM front shock linkage...the kit removes it as you will see in the second pic.

And here is the rear linkage kit...I should also note it moves the rear idler wheel back about 1" to potentially help with hyfax wear at the tip up I assume?

We need snow, I want to rip again!

 

[canoehead]

I would agree that getting new spring blocks with a stiffer setting will help, but I see it as a band-aid fix. You are sacrificing ride quality making the preload too stiff, having a bumpier/stiffer ride IMO.

At 300lbs dressed, I'm not sacrificing anything. I'll contemplate the Star Sus. but for now, I'll spend my glitter on performance parts instead of ride. I'm pretty satisfied with my set-up.

 

[Beenba]

Ah ok for your situation I agree that makes sense.

I'm only about 200lbs dressed, and I find even with the spring blocks on M its too harsh in the trails.

I should note, that even with my spacers and the blocks on H, I still had the 4.5" of sag. I just gave up on it and accepted it as normal last year..haha

 

[Murse]

Start with basics do you store your sled with the back jacked up off the ground? They sell special jacks also you can use a piece of wood or whatever. Prevents sag in the long run also do not leave your sled in the trailer all summer long still strapped in tight... just 2 common things is see happening during storage times.

 

[yam429]

Beenba I agree with you 100%. I store my my sled in the off season with skis and skid off the ground. During the riding season I lift the track off the ground after every ride and I still had the sag. Tried Hygear spacers and didn't make a difference. Star Suspension linkage kit worked best for me.

 

[cannondale27]

I bet if you remove suspension and clean /re grease every shaft and pivot your sit in(sag without rider)will greatly be reduced.

 

[mike3577]

Good point I grease mine pretty regularly and if I pull up on my rear bumper mine dont sag at all and will stay there