NY_Nytro
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favarcat said:
The service manager at my dealer told me that they put the inline coolant heater in the Apex without an issue. So thats what I'll do. I had one on my Nytro and Warrior and they worked great.
favarcat
Expert
thinksnow said:
Did you have any starting issues and not running right because of the EFI reading different temps.?
Len Todd
TY 4 Stroke God
You will not see any impact on your EFI with a coolant block heater. I have one on my Arctic Cat and it is EFI. No impact at all. I also have one on the RX-1 that is carbed. You do not need the heater very often. But when you do, it works like a champ! Saves that battery and starter.
rightarm
TY 4 Stroke Master
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My Apex wouldn't start twice last week in -20F and again in -28F , maybe my sled is just a piece of crap.[/quote]
Do you trickle charge your battery between rides?[/quote]
No I don't. Do you think it's a voltage issue? Should I get one of those small battery tenders for trips?[/quote]
Whenever not in use I always throw it on the "Battery Tender", and you might want to try the "battery heater" pad from Yamaha which is what you want to keep warm the "battery" on the sled not the coolant if parked overnight outside.Cold coolant won't prevent your sled from starting,but a cold battery certaintly will.
My Apex wouldn't start twice last week in -20F and again in -28F , maybe my sled is just a piece of crap.[/quote]
Do you trickle charge your battery between rides?[/quote]
No I don't. Do you think it's a voltage issue? Should I get one of those small battery tenders for trips?[/quote]
Whenever not in use I always throw it on the "Battery Tender", and you might want to try the "battery heater" pad from Yamaha which is what you want to keep warm the "battery" on the sled not the coolant if parked overnight outside.Cold coolant won't prevent your sled from starting,but a cold battery certaintly will.
Len Todd
TY 4 Stroke God
On my Arctic Cat, the Block Heater is mounted right next to the battery. It got the battery so hot, I had to put a strip of aluminum between them to keep the heat off the battery. 
Having a warm and well-charged battery does not take the strain off the cold starter that is working extra hard to turn over a cold engine filled with cold coolant. That strain requires extra battery current.
Also, if you can not start a warm engine with a cold battery, it is time to get the battery replaced.
And last but not least, if you leave the block heater plugged in for an hour or longer, the battery will pick up heat radiating from the engine.
So, if you are going to get the biggest bang for the buck, so to speak, I suggest you may want to consider concentrating on getting the engine warm. We’ll let ‘er go at that. or, ... To each, his own?
I personally do not even like the one extra cord, let alone potentially having two. But, I'll live with the one, just incase it drops to -20 when I am out there in the Toy-Hauler snoozin’ and the sled is sittin' outside shiverin'!
Having a warm and well-charged battery does not take the strain off the cold starter that is working extra hard to turn over a cold engine filled with cold coolant. That strain requires extra battery current.
Also, if you can not start a warm engine with a cold battery, it is time to get the battery replaced.
And last but not least, if you leave the block heater plugged in for an hour or longer, the battery will pick up heat radiating from the engine.
So, if you are going to get the biggest bang for the buck, so to speak, I suggest you may want to consider concentrating on getting the engine warm. We’ll let ‘er go at that. or, ... To each, his own?
I personally do not even like the one extra cord, let alone potentially having two. But, I'll live with the one, just incase it drops to -20 when I am out there in the Toy-Hauler snoozin’ and the sled is sittin' outside shiverin'!
One of the big advantages to Amsoil 0W40 is the cold starting. I have had my sled sit out on a saddlebag trip where the night cold was close to -60. In the morning at -45 the sled started up easily. We had several days below -20 and no problems starting. Ya should have seen the 2 smokes pulling thier sleds back with the rip cord.
I don't think ya need a heater if you have a good battery and the Amsoil synthetic.
I don't think ya need a heater if you have a good battery and the Amsoil synthetic.
favarcat
Expert
You probably do not NEED it, but I think it would be alot easier on the motor when first started. I'm putting one on mine for next year so it doesn't sound like a diesel starting at -40. That can't be good for the motor.
RX1Jim
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
Can someone post a few pictures of wher they have mounted the coolant heater? Also, did you get the coolant heater from yamaha or from an autoparts store? I like the idea of using the coolant heater on saddlebag trips, I have had a hard time getting my RX1 started during saddlebag trips in Quebec. Thanks!!
Len Todd
TY 4 Stroke God
Actually, I have an Arctic Cat one on both my water cooled sleds. The Yamaha ones were back ordered when I wanted on for the RX-1. They were the same heater for both brands.
You install them in the 1" hose just below the thermostat about even with the middle of the oil tank. Use aluminum tape to protect nearby plastic, etc. If you mount it there it will also heat the oil tank a bit. This is where Yamaha recommended installing it. Frankly, I am not sure where else it would even work.
You install them in the 1" hose just below the thermostat about even with the middle of the oil tank. Use aluminum tape to protect nearby plastic, etc. If you mount it there it will also heat the oil tank a bit. This is where Yamaha recommended installing it. Frankly, I am not sure where else it would even work.
