dutchie
Pro
i have decide next that i'm going to switch out my front end , went and looked at a nytro turbo and the guy had the zbros on his , his opinion was they were stronger built then the skinz front end , he also said that the new zbros is moved even more ahead like 3 inches
i can't seem to make my mind up as not seen the skinz up close , i love what they make as so far everything has been top notch ,
anyone happen to ride em both , pro's and cons on them , thought i'd start doing my homework now as i just know i'll be adding a 180 kit befor next winter
also as a long shot , do they come up for sale used ever , maybe someone wants to swap for a wider set ,
i can't seem to make my mind up as not seen the skinz up close , i love what they make as so far everything has been top notch ,
anyone happen to ride em both , pro's and cons on them , thought i'd start doing my homework now as i just know i'll be adding a 180 kit befor next winter
also as a long shot , do they come up for sale used ever , maybe someone wants to swap for a wider set ,
hugger70mtnmax
Expert
I don't think you will find a whole lot of people that have ridden both front ends but I will say I have the Skinz and it is awesome. The spring riding conditions really illustrate what it can do for you. I would have been in trouble many times with my old front end where the new one has really saved me.
As far as stronger built I believe the Skinz arms are built with thicker walled tubing so I am not sure how they are better.
Scott at OFT really helped me out with this. Give him a call. He is one of the few who will give you a no bs opinion. He is out there to make sure the customer is happy about what they buy not just sell stuff.
As far as stronger built I believe the Skinz arms are built with thicker walled tubing so I am not sure how they are better.
Scott at OFT really helped me out with this. Give him a call. He is one of the few who will give you a no bs opinion. He is out there to make sure the customer is happy about what they buy not just sell stuff.
LSXM3
Expert
Dutchie I have the Zbroz kit on my sled and i can tell you they are very VERY strong as i landed on a rock steping off a 15ft drop off going about 20mph and it stopped the sled dead only munched the subframe the a arm took the hit like a champ! I have a 42" kit right now but i think i will also be getting the skinz 38" kit for when i head out west. the only difference i see is the zbroz is slightly easier to align as they still use a straight tie rod, skinz is curved.
Bottom line is i think either one is a great fit, but like i said ill run the skinz set up for the narrow set and z broz for the wide set up
Bottom line is i think either one is a great fit, but like i said ill run the skinz set up for the narrow set and z broz for the wide set up
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Dutchie:
LSXM3 is right, you'll be happy with either. The key is moving the A-Arms forward....it has a huge effect on banking and thus powder rideablity. 3 or 4.5 inches doesn't sound like much, but because the stock ski position is so close to the centralized mass of the Nytro, small moves have big effects.
Think of it this way; With our sleds, the centralized mass is positioned very close to the ski spindles and the handlebars (front to back). So when you try to pull your sled over sideways with the stock suspension, you're basically trying to flip the weight of your sled on its side and using the center of the ski runner as the pivot to do it. It takes alot of effort, and once there, its very hard to keep in this position because the ski is pretty far from the center of all the nytro's weight.
If we built a Nytro's where its mass was centered above the track, it would be much easier to roll the sled on its side because the edge of the track is close to the center of the mass. In fact it would be too easy and the sled would be increadibly unstable.
What Skinz and ZBros recognized is that by moving the skis forward relative to the sled's mass, the pivot is now somewhere between the skis and the track making the sled easier to roll onto its side. It's more predictable too since the pivot is also closer to the centralized mass.
I think Polaris really figured this out first, and everyone else has been trying to get sleds to feel "balanced" ever since.
I have the Skinz front end and, all BS aside, it's night and day. The first thing I noticed while sitting on my shop floor is that it took way less effort to pull the sled over onn its side. You could also tell it would be easier to steer in this position too, and the first ride confirmed both.....
These suspensions help make the Nytro more predictable while on its side, and to me, that's one of the biggies that was needed to make the Nytro a capable mountian sled....that and BOOST!
OTM
LSXM3 is right, you'll be happy with either. The key is moving the A-Arms forward....it has a huge effect on banking and thus powder rideablity. 3 or 4.5 inches doesn't sound like much, but because the stock ski position is so close to the centralized mass of the Nytro, small moves have big effects.
Think of it this way; With our sleds, the centralized mass is positioned very close to the ski spindles and the handlebars (front to back). So when you try to pull your sled over sideways with the stock suspension, you're basically trying to flip the weight of your sled on its side and using the center of the ski runner as the pivot to do it. It takes alot of effort, and once there, its very hard to keep in this position because the ski is pretty far from the center of all the nytro's weight.
If we built a Nytro's where its mass was centered above the track, it would be much easier to roll the sled on its side because the edge of the track is close to the center of the mass. In fact it would be too easy and the sled would be increadibly unstable.
What Skinz and ZBros recognized is that by moving the skis forward relative to the sled's mass, the pivot is now somewhere between the skis and the track making the sled easier to roll onto its side. It's more predictable too since the pivot is also closer to the centralized mass.
I think Polaris really figured this out first, and everyone else has been trying to get sleds to feel "balanced" ever since.
I have the Skinz front end and, all BS aside, it's night and day. The first thing I noticed while sitting on my shop floor is that it took way less effort to pull the sled over onn its side. You could also tell it would be easier to steer in this position too, and the first ride confirmed both.....
These suspensions help make the Nytro more predictable while on its side, and to me, that's one of the biggies that was needed to make the Nytro a capable mountian sled....that and BOOST!
OTM
