Phazer Ideas

[buddhahead]

Now that I got a Phazer, I'm looking for a couple of answers. It has stock 3" carbides (I kinda understand, but my buddies Viper came with stock 3"also...?). What is everyone running? Should I set up the shocks, etc. to halfway then go from there? I rode it up and down the street and it looks like the front wants to come up. I don't care for that. Some baseline settings on the shocks, straps, etc. would be great. I'm about 175-180 lbs.geared up. I'm used to a zx500 with 6"dually's and no studs. I am not going to stud the Phazer either. Thanks in advance.
BTW: Most of our riding is in the UP.

 

[terret725]

invest in some new skis. stock ones suck. also the stock carbies lasted me about 300 miles and were almost gone. what do u have for a model? rxt, fx, gt or standard? i have an rtx and have had my shocks revalved which made it night and day in the ride. they use a no progressiver valve stack so that its the same stiffness in low and high speed. so small bumps its stiff and bottomes in 3 foot mogals. id recomend having the shocks revalved to a progessive valving like somthing out of a rev( beacuse they use same style shocks) the skis are goin to wanna lift just because the way the suspention is set up. i dout ull be able to totaly get rid of it. its the weight transfer. u usaly change that by changeing the cupling blocks but they dont make any difernt ones for the phazer.

 

[SharkAttak]

if you change your mind about studding, you only need 72 stud's, don't over stud, it will kill the top end

 

[buddhahead]

Its a standard. I am going to probably put 6" carbides on it and keep the originals on the shelf.

 

[terret725]

the amount of carbide doesnt make a differance on anything other then hard hard frozen pack or ice. the skis keel is what does most of the steering 80% of the time. i have 14 inches of carbide on my skies and its no harder to steer then the stock skis in a soft pack then the stock skis. other then the keels grabing and not having to worry about goin straight off the trail. skis and shock revalving makes the phazer ride 100 times better. u could put 20 inches of crabide and u wouldnt be able to tell it was there unless u were on ice. only adbatage of alot of carbide, IMO, is they last alot longer.

 

[buddhahead]

That the beauty of this site. I ask and you guys respond. Thanks. What about the limiter straps? Change, leave alone? I want to get a good baseline setup so when I go ride, I can ride. I don't want to stop every 2 miles and wrench. I would never hear the end of it. As for skis...give me some ideas.

 

[terret725]

i have USI tripple threats X2 which are realy agressive. like almost a 2 inch keel counting carbide. may be a little much for most. my buddy road it last night and he is use to stock yamaha skis and said it was hard to steer but went right where u wanted without having to worry about ski push. and after 70 hard miles of tight twisty trails my arms, shoulders and lats are feeling it today. id say a set of c and a's like the advantage or razor . the C and As XT might be too agressive they seem on par with the USIs i have. alreay depends on the snow u ride. if u ahve a good groomers that are out every storm and regularly in between u dont need an as agressive ski. but if u ride alot of off trail or where they dont groom alot and u get alot of fress fluff on the trail the bigger the keel the better IMO.

as for ur limiter straps it depends on ur riding style also. if u ride mostly grommed flat trails with fast cornering u might want to suck them up cause the phazer can be tippy in the corners cause it has so much suspention under it. by sucking them up ur lowering the center of gravity. but if u ride alot of bigger bumps ur goin to want as much suspention travle as possible and leave them set out where they are so ur getting the full use of ur travel. IMO id rather have to lean a bit more then contanly bottom out.
ur best bet is to ride it a few times and see what u like and dislike about it and tune from there. u know if it is too tip[y for u and ur not bottoming at all suck them up a bit and try again. if its too soft in the rear go to hard on the rear block or if it feels to hard go to soft. and if u cant find a happy medium on the rear suspention a shock revalving can make a huge differance.

 

[ef x eh]

i tightened my strap up one hole and when the snow tightened up in the evening the skiis were tough to turn. i am considering returning the strap to the stock setting again for the easier steering. they certainly need more body english than my old poo-poo.

 

[buddhahead]

Thanks guys. Most of the riding is done in the UP of Michigan. I try to get off trail as much as possible, but it depends on who I'm riding with. As for the grooming, most of the clubs were really good about grooming every night this year. There were a few spots that couldnt get groomed because of the swamps not being frozen.