PUSHING IN THE CORNERS

[JERSEYJOE]

First: Forgive me for rehashing any previous posts on this.

What adjustments can I make to eliminate the horrible pushing
( understeer) that my GT currently has?

First here is where I am:

Stock skis with 4 inch Doolies
Toe at .125 toe OUT
front springs have zero tension unloaded
limiter is one hole tighter than stock
rear spring preloaded to 40 mm sag.
transfer rod adjustment unknown.

I thought it might be conditions, but on a recent trip I rode other sleds and they did not push like mine did going into the corners. I know the GT is heavy, but I have to really hang off the inside to get it around a corner.
Feels like not enough weight on the skis

thanks for the help.

Jersey Joe

 

[Red2003]

Try more front spring preload. The doolies are your biggest problem, I bet. They are known to push A LOT in the corners. I have seen on here that Stud Boy Duece Bars work better to control darting without sacrificing bite!!

 

[YammiMoose]

Try more front spring preload. The doolies are your biggest problem, I bet. They are known to push A LOT in the corners. I have seen on here that Stud Boy Duece Bars work better to control darting without sacrificing bite!!

Put the Duece Bars on and rode 1000 miles on them Two weeks ago in Northern Maine at high speeds. PROBLEM solved!

-Moose

 

[JERSEYJOE]

deuce bars

is there a website for them????????

 

[SledFreak]

Set the transfer rod to min and try it. I can say with 90 percent cetainty, that is your problem. The transfer rod controls weight transfer. If the rear skid has too much trasfer than the skis are not touching the ground and you have a big push.

 

[JERSEYJOE]

TRANSFER ROD AN MINIMUM

What is the minimum distance and exactly where is it measured from?

 

[accobra66]

I had the same problem with my Attack.

I originally had dual Woody's 4" bars on the front. Change to Woody's 6" helped quite a bit. What helped most though was working with the transfer rod in the back. It allowed the back end to kick out just a bit and the front end planted better. Still think there is room to go on the adjustment with tightening the front shocks more.

Keep in mind that snow conditions make a huge difference. Do not adjust at home in the garage and expect to get realistic results the next time you go sledding a week later. Make all adjustments on the trail so you can really feel what is happening.

 

[JERSEYJOE]

TRANSFER ROD ADJUSTMENT

I jusr re-read the sticky on setting the ride height of the APEX which also covered the transfer rod adjustment. I will try it this weekend.

So let me get this right , more front spring tension will hurt cornering?

 

[ZR800EFI]

No, tightening the front springs will add ski pressure, which is likely what you need to do. You stated you have them as loose as possible, if I understand your first post...or you have them as tight as possible...guess I'm not sure what you mean by, "front springs have zero tension unloaded ".

Oh, and I really think you should ditch those little doolies.

 

[welterracer]

Get rid of the DUALIES.. they suck..

Go to a single carbide runner or a set of dual carbid skis..

Dualies push... they plug with snow and push

 

[JERSEYJOE]

front springs

I have then loose to the point where there is no load on them when the sled is lifted on the stand and the skis are hanging. This is how I was told to keep them. In other words there is zero tension on them at full droop.

Is there a measurment or compresses length that I should set them to?

If it was a valve spring I would call it installed height. LOL LOL LOL

 

[sledheadgeorge]

Re: front springs

I have then loose to the point where there is no load on them when the sled is lifted on the stand and the skis are hanging. This is how I was told to keep them. In other words there is zero tension on them at full droop.

Is there a measurment or compresses length that I should set them to?

If it was a valve spring I would call it installed height. LOL LOL LOL

That would be ok for regular 6" carbides but since you have the duallys you need more front ski preasure, they have a tendency to push in the corners. Increase you spring preasure 2 full turns and try it. If it is not enough add more till you find the right spring preasure for your skis and carbides. Once you get close you should not have to adjust anymore with the dually carbides.

 

[YammiMoose]

Re: deuce bars

is there a website for them????????

Stud Boy Deuce bar
AmSnow staff
1/17/2006


Stud Boy's new Deuce Bar is designed to provide better turning than other dual runners while eliminating darting on the trail. Features include a lighter weight, one-piece design; a design that eliminates dual runner-type drag and top-end loss; and more. Available in 4.5-, 6- and 9-inch 60-degree cutting carbide sizes to fit current snowmobiles. Cost is $52.99 for 4.5-inch, $58.99 for 6-inch and $78.99 for 9-inch. More info: www.studboytraction.com


BUY Them they work!

111 MPH with 6" Woodies duelies

114 MPH with 6" Duece Bars

Otherwise you are going to drive yourself nuts making adjustments to compensate!

-Moose

 

[Yummy]

Just give it 3 to 4 clicks in front and you will see a difference!

 

[RTX Meirda]

I have Simmons on my RTX and the GT has 4"dualies.

Night and day difference between the 2.

GT pushes like crazy....but has very little steering effort.

RTX more effort.....but you know you are going to turn. Way more confident!!!