QC-1 ok for Canada trails??

[BADSLED]

I'm going to Quebec next week and have a recently installed QC-1 White Knuckle exhaust. Will I be safe with the noise level or should I put the stock back on?????

 

[chrishall]

It's not against the law to have one. But they are in the middle of a big court case right now because of loud exausts. In lower courts it was ruled that if you lived with in 100 meters of a trail, you were to be given $1500.00/yr. To a max of $8500.00. The supreme court has over turned this ruling and is looking into it. If they agree with the lower courts descision, it will really hurt the snowmobiling in Quebec.

Let's not piss them off even more. I live in Ontario and like going there because they have way more snow than where I live.

 

[jimmie d]

Any aftermarket exhaust or can in Ontario can get you thrown off the trails. Don't know about Quebec.

Jim

 

[Sled Dog]

But yet Bikes can make all the noise they want in our city streets. Go figure.

 

[Rick M]

It's not against the law to have one. .

It is against the law to start up your machine with one on though, on or off the trail, even on lakes, or your own property, in Canada anyway. The wording in section 18 (exhaust) of the Motorized snow Vehicle act says " Drive Motorized snow vehicle with modified component"
This means if your sled is Yamaha, and the exhaust is not yamaha....it is illegal, there is no decibal number that is ok, or illegal, if it has been motified its illegal. If it says stinger, white knuckle, Bender, or anything else it is illegal. Not sure why we get away with it on bikes, but here in Ontario, pipes are under heavey fire this year, largely due to the Quebec thing. We don't want our trails closed

 

[Mighty]

If what you say it true Rick, nobody will know the difference because with the systems you listed they all appear stock and exit in the stock location.

 

[jimmie d]

Mighty all they need to say is it does not sound stock and throw you off trail. You can argue all you want but you must load up and leave.

Jim

 

[SIMMER]

Really depends where you are riding to whether or not you get caught. I would say anything SOUTH of North Bay you would be taking a chance. NORTH of North Bay you should be OK.

Keep in mind....I am just stating probablilty of getting caught with it. ANYWHERE in Ontario as Greenmachine mentioned it would be illegal.

 

[LazyBastard]

Y: That may be so in Alberta (I don't know the laws there), but in Ontario, you get thrown off the road for noisy exhaust on any road vehicle. In fact, you can get thrown off the road for a SCRATCH IN YOUR PAINT if the cop is a real turd.

Rick M: In a rural location on private property, you can make all the noise you want with any kind of vehicle you want and nobody has any right to complain. The motorized snow vehicle act does NOT supercede private property. In an urban area on private property, you must stop the racket no later than 11pm.

Also, about that "all modified" clause... that wouldn't hold up in that its INTENTION is not to stop all aftermarket exhausts, just those that are crazy loud. As long as its no louder than a stock arctic crap, all they can do is threaten you and swing their arms at you.

 

[Sled Dog]

There is a lot of loud and I mean loud bikes in this city and they are pretty much left alone. I would say our laws are the same as Ontario's when it comes to exhaust noise. They will stop a 17 year old with a loud exhaust on his car and issue a ticket but they will leave someone who has loud pipes on their bike alone. The only thing I can figure is the cops see an easy target with the kids and leave the adults with loud pipes on bikes alone.

 

[LazyBastard]

They stop you for having a big speaker in your back seat here. Last week I got pulled over for having snow on my license plate during a blizzard. They attack anyone and everyone.

 

[DC5]

On the quebec trail pass it says that your exhaust cannot excede 73 decibels.
I talked to a trail warden and he said that they usually do not carry decibel meters but if they see an aftermarket exhaust you will be fined.

 

[tshelver]

Can the aftermarket exhaust, or keep it on the lake. Biggest problem we have with our club trails is renewing landowner permission every year. Biggest complaints are noise and pollution.

The bike thing doesn't make it right. I ride myself, all my bikes have stock exhausts.
We have a backlash here, some locals are trying to shut down or modify Laconia Bikeweek, because of the noise.

 

[Rick M]

In a rural location on private property, you can make all the noise you want with any kind of vehicle you want and nobody has any right to complain. The motorized snow vehicle act does NOT supercede private property. In an urban area on private property, you must stop the racket no later than 11pm.
Also, about that "all modified" clause... that wouldn't hold up in that its INTENTION is not to stop all aftermarket exhausts, just those that are crazy loud. As long as its no louder than a stock arctic crap, all they can do is threaten you and swing their arms at you.

I am not going to argue opinions about the black and white Motorized Snow Vehicle act...I do enforce it though, and I can tell you that in Ontario, we are told, if it attracts our attention, to look at it, and if it is not made by the same company that made your sled....to lay the charge. Nowwhere does the law say, if it is quiter than a cat with triple pipes....nor does it say...you have to be on a groomed trail...the charge is "Operate motorized snow vehicle, with modified component", under the section dealing with exhaust. Its just friendly advise to someone who was asking.....careful of expert advise or opinions you go by.

18. (1) No person shall drive a motorized snow vehicle unless it is equipped with a muffler in good working order and in constant operation and no person shall drive a motorized snow vehicle which has a muffler cut-out, straight exhaust, gutted muffler, hollywood muffler, by-pass or similar device upon the motorized snow vehicle. R.S.O. 1990, c. M.44, s. 18 (1).

Removing or modifying any component

(2) No person shall drive or permit to be driven any motorized snow vehicle upon which any component or device, which was required under the provisions of the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (Canada) at the time that the motorized snow vehicle was manufactured or imported into Canada, has been removed, modified or rendered inoperative. R.S.O. 1990, c. M.44, s. 18 (2).
Exception in racing area

(3) Subsections (1) and (2) do not apply to a motorized snow vehicle while it is driven in a racing area sanctioned as such by the council of the local municipality within which the racing area is located. R.S.O. 1990, c. M.44, s. 18 (3).


....so lazy...unless your municipality sanctioned your property as a racing area....you can be charged...atleast in Canada.

 

[BVER FEVER]

Rick you gotta relax on the rule book or your gonna have a stroke. Do less of this and more of this and everybody will be