Selling sled from USA to a Canada

[gp300rider]

I have having trouble finding anything on this topic. I live in New York and have a Canadian citizen that is interested in a sled of mine. Is there anything I need to be aware of or responsible for, to sell to someone outside the US. Was hoping someone out there might have some input. Thanks.

 

[HeyBrownDog]

Just sold my Rage to a fella who drove all the way from New Brunsick (east of Maine). It's more of a pain on their end but I'll share my experience.

NYS gives you a Proof of Ownership, and Registration (look very similar) every year when you re-register the sled. You simply need to sign the back of that, and draft a bill of sale so that when they cross the border they pay something. Not sure if it's tax, duty...whatever they call it.

The Canadian buyer is also gonna be looking for some sort of letter from Yamaha stating that all the recalls are done. I guess it's required by the Canadians before they title the machine over. But also protects them in getting the recall work done before it's leaves the US. Apparently some times they won't do it at the Canadian Yamaha dealers.

So, in summary:

1. Proof of Ownership
2. Bill of Sale reflecting manufacture, VIN, Model, color, and amount of the sale. Getting a notary public wouldn't hurt you either. I had my secretary do this.
3. Recall letter from Yamaha which can be obtain by buyer using your VIN.

My understanding is that the buyer need to contact US Customs or the Canadian customs ahead of time with copies of these documents so that there is no delay once they try and cross. Something like 48-72 hours in advance. Obviously you don't give the buyer originals, you can fax a copy or scan them as PDF's like I did. They run the sleds VIN and make sure it's not stolen leaving the US.

Hope this helps. Make sure it's a cash deal because up in Canada according to my buyer, tons of scams going on up there. It's also why so many legitimate Canadian buyers worry about dealing with us here in the US. Kinda sad actually....

 

[ScottyD]

you might also need a lien release to prove there is now money owing on the sled or its not being used for collateral

 

[HeyBrownDog]

Correct....Lien Release also. Completely forgot!

 

[gp300rider]

Great info....thanks!! TY provides such a wealth of knowledge.

 

[thrasher]

No need to contact customs office ahead of time. The Canadian buyer, requires the ownership signed over, and bill of sale with lien release in there. At Canadian customs he will need to show bill of sale and be charged for GST. Back in Canada he will need to contact RIV ( register imported vehicle ). Canadian customs will give you a pamphlet on this or go online. The RIV will issue a form to have the sled checked at Canadian Tire once you sign up and pay their fee of $250 . The RIV will also want a recall clearance letter issued from Yamaha head office. Once complete the RIV will issue a new label of compliance that you put over the old label. He will also need to go to the licence bureau to change the ownership, get plate numbers and pay PST. It's alot of running around, but sometimes the deals in the U.S. are worth the effort. I think that's about it.

 

[Swiss Sledder]

My understanding is that the buyer need to contact US Customs or the Canadian customs ahead of time with copies of these documents so that there is no delay once they try and cross. Something like 48-72 hours in advance. Obviously you don't give the buyer originals, you can fax a copy or scan them as PDF's like I did. They run the sleds VIN and make sure it's not stolen leaving the US.

That was my experience too. I didn't do this and the U.S. Customs guys were a bit upset but they understood given my location. Everything else he said is spot on.

 

[darv]

you need a copy of title or the statement of orgin if new bring it to us customs and a copy of your drivers lic 3 days before you export then stop at us customs the day you export they will stamp the ownership and you are free to canada customs and do your RIV form and pay one tax

 

[couch]

No need to "stop" at US customs unless you plan on bringing the sled back across to the US side again at a later date (e.g. new sled with warranty that has to be done in the US).

 

[NB-NYTRO]

You need to stop there regardless. However its a US law and not a Canadian law. If the US border guards are doing outbound checks you could be fined $500-$1000. However they rarely do outbound checks these days I'm told. Most guys just drive through and not stop. I could see if you were importing a car or truck and you wanted make sure it passed the lein and stolen check you might want to stop and clear it.

 

[thrasher]

I phoned the border crossing where I was going to cross when I bought an RX1 in the states and was bringing it back to Canada to clarify that issue. The U.S. customs agent told me as long as it was a used sled, there was absolutley no need to stop. I suggested that I heard otherwise, she then turned into a downright bitch suggesting that I didn't know what I was talking about. So I wouldn't stop just in case she was on duty, probably end up with a cavity search! By the way I didn't stop, no problems, was glad to get back to Canada. Had a harder time getting into the states with the empty trailer, thought the guy was going to shoot me the way he kept stroking his handgun.

 

[shanksyamaha]

I sold my 2005 grizzly 660 to a canadian last summer. I simply went to the border with the quad in the back, the agent asked me where I was going and who owned the machine in the back. I told him it was mine and I was going to ride with some friends in canada for the day. I went over, met him at wendys and sold the grizzly. Maybe not the correct way but thats what I did and the guy paid me an extra $300 for bringing it over the border.

 

[darv]

I work for us customs and it is law that it is checked also canadian customs will check to see if we stamp it and if she told different she is wrong

 

[thrasher]

You should talk to her, probably tear a strip off of you as she did to me.

 

[darv]

send a pm to me with here name and i will see what i can do