starting phazer in the summer

[pat the rat]

started the phazer today,i know,youre not soppose to start them in the summer but,hey,ive always done it and never had any problem plus,i cant go 6 months without hearing a sled,anyway,it started right away and ran perfect instantly,much better than my warrior wich turns over for a minute before firing,as anyone started theyre phazer and how well did it start

 

[big-d]

start mine a month or so ago and it started right up and ran perfect. can't wait to get her on the snow this winter.

 

[yzf1999]

Bought mine brand new a month and a half ago..I've never heard it run.

 

[PhazerMaX]

Mine gets started every week .... Just finished color change on complete sled ..... the white and gray just didn't look right.

Now where's the snow ....

 

[Chris K]

Mine gets started every week .... Just finished color change on complete sled ..... the white and gray just didn't look right.

Now where's the snow ....

What color did you go with?
Do you have pics? Just curious if you painted the gray panels and how it looks.

 

[rfabro]

Why does anyone say not to start them? I heard yamaha says this. I can't imagine something being worse than condensation build-up from not starting them.

 

[cork]

I was staring at my trailer in the 90 degree heat last week, and could not resist the urge to hear the four stroke wail, and at least make me think cooool thoughts!!

Cork

 

[pat the rat]

im glad im not the only one who cant go more than a couple months without starting there sled,there are alot of posts on here about not to start them in the summer and condensation and this and that,who cares,all i want to do is hear it run,besides,ive always done that with all my sleds,2 stroke & 4 and never had a engine failure

 

[PureBlue]

I think if you have the motor fogged at your dealer to summer-rise it , you probly shoulden't start it during the summer. But if you don't fog it, I don't see why you can't start it durring the summer. I start mine every so often. I don't fog mine.

 

[OST]

I start mine every 2 or 3 weeks.
Didn't fog it ... only raised front and rear off floor.
No problem starting ... 3 or 4 seconds ... that's it. Let her run to idle speed rpm.

Sweet .....

 

[PhazerMaX]

Mine gets started every week .... Just finished color change on complete sled ..... the white and gray just didn't look right.

Now where's the snow ....

What color did you go with?
Do you have pics? Just curious if you painted the gray panels and how it looks.

1st off, my sleds weren't fogged, did add Stabil to tanks and top off. They all get started at least once a week. Phazer moreoften than others simply to hear that 4 stroke sound and think happy thoughts. LOL

2nd to answer above on colors, Gray went to black - White went to red with rainbow mirror overcoat. Multiple layers of clear over all. I'll post pics as soon as all work is completed. Already looks much better that boring scheme used in 07.

 

[miked]

The reason they say not to start the sled is that H2O a by product of combustion. The H2O is suspended in the oil as a contaminant, if the engine is only run for a short period of time the H20 nevers burns off because the oil never reaches its design operating temperature. This runs the risk of corrosion of ferrous engine components. Is damage likely? Most likely not. Is it more likey then someone who stores their sled with fresh oil and doesn't start it? Yes

 

[rfabro]

I always let my sled run for some time while confirming that the rad fan has come on. That should ensure the water boils off.

 

[Turtle]

You're forgetting one thing though ... Even if you let your engine run long enough to come up to temperature and burn off the moisture, you will still get moisure back into the engine after it cools down.

The reason why is simply physics. When you shut the engine down, the engine, and the air left inside it is hot and has a slightly higher pressure than the outside air.

As the air inside the engine cools off the internal pressure reduces, creating a vacuum effect ... which therefore sucks in the outside air. This same thing happens in the winter months when you are using the sled. However, the summer months have much more humid air ... therefore sucking in moisture as the engine cools down ... and potentially defeating the purpose of running the engine in the first place.

You can demonstrate this by putting a balloon that is at room temperature in a freezer ... you will see the balloon decrease in size when it cools down.

Is this a big deal ....? ... probably not, but I thought I should at least mention it.

L8R ...

 

[pro116]

You're forgetting one thing though ... Even if you let your engine run long enough to come up to temperature and burn off the moisture, you will still get moisure back into the engine after it cools down.

The reason why is simply physics. When you shut the engine down, the engine, and the air left inside it is hot and has a slightly higher pressure than the outside air.

As the air inside the engine cools off the internal pressure reduces, creating a vacuum effect ... which therefore sucks in the outside air. This same thing happens in the winter months when you are using the sled. However, the summer months have much more humid air ... therefore sucking in moisture as the engine cools down ... and potentially defeating the purpose of running the engine in the first place.

You can demonstrate this by putting a balloon that is at room temperature in a freezer ... you will see the balloon decrease in size when it cools down.

Is this a big deal ....? ... probably not, but I thought I should at least mention it.

L8R ...

Exactly.I was going to post the same thing but was thinking a way of wording it.