traction issue

[extreman1]

how are u guys getting your nytros to hook up on snow? I have a 09 xtx with s/c I get beat out of the hole almost every time do to awfull trenching spinning I have studs a lot of studs but still spin bad help!!!

 

[JP270NYTRO]

how are u guys getting your nytros to hook up on snow? I have a 09 xtx with s/c I get beat out of the hole almost every time do to awfull trenching spinning I have studs a lot of studs but still spin bad help!!!

whats your track? with my xtx turbo I couldn't get the ripsaw to hook with 285 1.5'' hornets I had to change the track to get it to hook out of the hole

 

[kinger]

Gotta go long its just too much power. I went with a 13.5" wide by 151" and the traction non studded is insane. I never knew how much my 121 with 300+ studs was spinning.

 

[ghost rider]

Gotta go long its just too much power. I went with a 13.5" wide by 151" and the traction non studded is insane. I never knew how much my 121 with 300+ studs was spinning.

WOW 151…..how does it corner in the trails?

 

[ghost rider]

Gotta go long its just too much power. I went with a 13.5" wide by 151" and the traction non studded is insane. I never knew how much my 121 with 300+ studs was spinning.

WOW 151…..how does it corner in the trails?

 

[ghost rider]

Gotta go long its just too much power. I went with a 13.5" wide by 151" and the traction non studded is insane. I never knew how much my 121 with 300+ studs was spinning.

WOW 151…..how does it corner in the trails?

 

[extreman1]

Gotta go long its just too much power. I went with a 13.5" wide by 151" and the traction non studded is insane. I never knew how much my 121 with 300+ studs was spinning.

how did u use a 151 track ? extend the rails? and were did u find a 13.5 track??

 

[extreman1]

how are u guys getting your nytros to hook up on snow? I have a 09 xtx with s/c I get beat out of the hole almost every time do to awfull trenching spinning I have studs a lot of studs but still spin bad help!!!

whats your track? with my xtx turbo I couldn't get the ripsaw to hook with 285 1.5'' hornets I had to change the track to get it to hook out of the hole

I have the stock track

 

[ghost rider]

I have excellent results with a rip saw II ... But I believe the skid has more to do with hooking up well as it has excellent weight transfer.

 

[nate007]

Are you running much for hard or icy trails? If you're on good groomed trails, or off trail, studs are useless.

I've got a boosted XTX with a Backcountry 1.75 track, and a boosted Apex with an XTX skid in it and a Cobra on it, neither is studded and although they will spin whenever I want them to, they both hook up great on groomed trails.

There's a number of things you can look at to help you.
1. If you've got far more power out of the hole than you can put to the ground, you can change your top gear out for a larger one. It'll "work" the engine a little harder and also help with mid and top end speed. You might have to play with your clutching a little bit to compensate though, assuming your clutching is pretty close to optimal now.
2. Dig into the adjustment on your suspension. Have you adjusted much with it or changed anything on it, or is it pretty much out of the box with studs? What does the sled do with the skis when and if you do get a good launch? Does it lift the skis very far, and if so, how much? Post up some info regarding the rest of the sleds behavior and what all you've done to it, or what is different than stock.

What works great for some isn't always the best for everyone, but I have mine setup so that on a good launch and me leaning slighly forward on either sled, the skis come off the ground just enough that the back of the skis will barely be aprox 2" off the ground. I run my sleds lower in the front than most, and fell like the weight transfer stays lower to the ground than if it were a foot in the air. Seems to work good for me..

3. Depending on what the snow conditions are for the majority of the time(s) and places you ride, you may want to consider a different track. If you're on good snow and don't ride when conditions are marginal, I'd say to forget the studs.

Like Kinger said, just because you have studs, doesn't mean they're going to help. A track with a better paddle design will be light years ahead of the stock Rip Saw. They don't call them the Rip Trench for nothing...
There's tons of discussions on which track is best for what, but I personally like the Cobra the best. It really hooks up well, does great off trail. It is a softer rubber compound than most tracks, and I've heard some say they don't last as long, and you shouldn't stud it because it's thinner/softer as well, but I really like mine.
The Back Country is an excellent track as well, and really pulls hard too. I don't have as much time on it as I do my Cobra on my Apex, but it's right up there as well. Off trail is awesome on it as well, but it's 1.75, where the Cobra is 1 3/8".
Either way, you'll likely never get the stock track to hook up for you the way you want it to, except maybe on grass in the summer..

 

[extreman1]

nytro spin

I have rear limiter strap all the way out, suspension is set soft, I get about foot of ski lift on launch but spin badly front end is stock height set a little stiff. would I also benefit going to the 14.5 gram rollers? I hear they help with trencghing