iasledder
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if that doesn't work, you going to have to change the plugs.
Yep, that's what I was afraid of. Any good tricks to cut down the work? This is a pain in the butt.[/quote]
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[/quote]iasledder said:if that doesn't work, you going to have to change the plugs.
Yep, that's what I was afraid of. Any good tricks to cut down the work? This is a pain in the butt.
not really, just take your time, if you haven't done before, just mark everything as you take a part, the spark plug boots can be alittle tough getting off
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I don't know how your fuel is , but in Canada our fuel is crap and does not have the bang it used to have. Shows up when really cold outside. The engine will turn over , fire now and again but will not start. Our 4 strokes are lower compression , adding to the issue. The fuel will not vapourize at -30 and below. Just pour hot water across the throttle bodies( it will not freeze in the belly pan , just runs out ) , hold the throttle 1/4 open , crank til it starts , usually right away. We have done this down as cold as -48. For sure Ow30 or Ow40 oil.
Iinstalled a coolant heater , did not seem to help much, had it on for 1 hr and still had to do the water trick.
Iinstalled a coolant heater , did not seem to help much, had it on for 1 hr and still had to do the water trick.

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I didn't have the strength to pull the boots off by hand so I used a flat screwdriver to help pry while pulling. Thanks again to our TY guys for that tip.
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Got it going. Took my 200,000 BTU cigar heater and placed it in front of the sled with the air box open and throttle locked wide open. Disconnected EFI and cranked to make sure no puddled fuel. 10* F outside, left heater on until my add on ambient air temp gage read 60* F on the dash board. Just cracked throttle and cranked, popped and sputtered open throttle to just under clutch engagement and it started picking up cylinders 1 at a time. Jumped on it quick and got it under way. Still running rough, but gradually got it hitting on all 4. Better than having to pull plugs, which was going to be my last resort.
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I start my 06 attack the same every time cold or not, even -35 f ... I turn the key one notch to activate the dash instruements and i listen to the electric fuel pump run till the pump reaches pressure and then it goes quiet. Now i turn the key the rest of the way to engage the starter and the engine fires up, I NEVER touch the throttle untill i feel the running boards warm up,.. Note , don;t start your sled unless you are going to bring it up to operating temp, and don;t trick the computer by touching the throttle during warm up .. We use synthetic oil Good sledding
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iasledder said:Got it going. Took my 200,000 BTU cigar heater and placed it in front of the sled with the air box open and throttle locked wide open. Disconnected EFI and cranked to make sure no puddled fuel. 10* F outside, left heater on until my add on ambient air temp gage read 60* F on the dash board. Just cracked throttle and cranked, popped and sputtered open throttle to just under clutch engagement and it started picking up cylinders 1 at a time. Jumped on it quick and got it under way. Still running rough, but gradually got it hitting on all 4. Better than having to pull plugs, which was going to be my last resort.
You need to change your plugs. It's not that hard. There are step by step instructions fro Ulmer somewhere around here. Do a search.
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Thank you for your reply. I have changed plugs before. Can't remember, but believe I did Ulmer's thing and wrote him back saying it still was a pain in the butt. Sled is running great now, under acceleration and top end, so until I have another instance "it aint broke". Probably show up at an unopportune time, but 'til then, off in a cloud of snow dust.
Understand what you are saying and appreciate your reply.---Jim
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iasledder said:Thank you for your reply. I have changed plugs before. Can't remember, but believe I did Ulmer's thing and wrote him back saying it still was a pain in the butt. Sled is running great now, under acceleration and top end, so until I have another instance "it aint broke". Probably show up at an unopportune time, but 'til then, off in a cloud of snow dust.
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how did you finnally get it started
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Go back about 4 threads and you will see my answer

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Run some Yami Ring Free in it. It may help with any carbon on the plugs from fouling.
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iasledder said:Go back about 4 threads and you will see my answer
holy crap, i would just changed the plugs only take 1/2 hr
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yammerblue said:I start my 06 attack the same every time cold or not, even -35 f ... I turn the key one notch to activate the dash instruements and i listen to the electric fuel pump run till the pump reaches pressure and then it goes quiet. Now i turn the key the rest of the way to engage the starter and the engine fires up, I NEVER touch the throttle untill i feel the running boards warm up,.. Note , don;t start your sled unless you are going to bring it up to operating temp, and don;t trick the computer by touching the throttle during warm up .. We use synthetic oil Good sledding
Same sled as you and I do the same thing.. -40f and my sled has started without a problem. I have the inline coolant heater and have used it a few times and the sled started a little easier and warmed up quicker... No touching the throttle or anything... Mobil 1 0-30...
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