I am looking to replace the whells to save hyfax wear
Are the following wheels the correct ones?
• 6 Kimpex/Polaris oversized bogie/idler wheels Kimpex Part # 04-116-965.
Thanks for any help.......
Are the following wheels the correct ones?
• 6 Kimpex/Polaris oversized bogie/idler wheels Kimpex Part # 04-116-965.
Thanks for any help.......
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I have not personnaly gotten that wheel but it is the number listed as a direct replacement.
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Yes, those are the direct replacement, same bearing and same size as the original. However I do not believe that installing these wheels will improve the wear of your sliders. I pretty much guarantee that they will last longer than the Yammy ones and are serviceable though, ie. bearing swap.
In order to decrease slider wear, you would need to install larger diameter wheels (stock diameter is 130mm). Installing 135mm wheels would be the ideal solution. However the 135mm wheel comes with the wider bearing and the mounts would require machining to center the idler wheels between the drive lugs of the track.
I've changed the wheels on my sled to the larger 135mm ones (and installed a pair of extra idlers) and have noticed that slider wear has significantly decreased, giving me peace of mind. I don't think I'll go through 3 sets of sliders this winter like I did last year.
In order to decrease slider wear, you would need to install larger diameter wheels (stock diameter is 130mm). Installing 135mm wheels would be the ideal solution. However the 135mm wheel comes with the wider bearing and the mounts would require machining to center the idler wheels between the drive lugs of the track.
I've changed the wheels on my sled to the larger 135mm ones (and installed a pair of extra idlers) and have noticed that slider wear has significantly decreased, giving me peace of mind. I don't think I'll go through 3 sets of sliders this winter like I did last year.
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I believe the last digit is an S not a 5. Go to kimpex.com, select the snowmobile catalog and go to page 356, at the bottom you'll see part #04-116-96S. You can’t order them directly from Kimpex but you can order them through Al’s Snowmobile 802-487-1000.
I don't know if these will help with hifax wear. Here are suggestions for that.
1. Put on low snow wheels and add additional idler wheels. This can be expensive and if Yamaha made a decent idler wheel (whole other issue), this could be a long term fix.
2. Cut out the closed windows and clip all the ribs. This is very time consumming and prone to mistakes and somewhat expensive but it works and is a long term fix.
3. SLP anti-wear pads. Cheap, $30. Easy, 2 hours of labor. They work. I put them on my '05 Rs Venture at the beginning of this year and have put on 1700 miles and have only worn off 1.5mm of hifax. The Venture atarts with 18.5mm of hifax and has a wear limit of 10.5mm giving me 8mm of usable hifax. Last year after 1700 miles I had worn off 6mm. Based on this year's rate of wear with the pads, my hifax should last 9,000 miles - SWEEET. One problem with these is that the pads themselves wear, don’t know how long they’ll last but for the price and time to do it, won’t mind replacing them once in a while.
4. Change out the Yamaha idler wheels and put on oversized Poo/Doo wheels. You have to machine the mounts because of different sized bearings but this works and is a long term fix.
5. Be patient, let them wear all the way down. Get a pair of calipers and measure the actual wear. The Venture hyfaxes start off with 18.5mm (top to bottom), manual says wear limit is 10.5mm, giving you 8mm of wear. The first 4mm melted off in 450 miles. At this point you get really nervous and want to change them out but then a switch gets turned on and they quit melting. MM 5 lasted for 450 miles. MM 6 lasted for 500 miles. MM 7 lasted for 830 miles and still half of it to go. I put on 3000 miles ‘04/05 season. And that was the end of the season. I would have loved to seen what that last 1.5mm would have lasted but I'm putting a new set on for the next season. Most people think that the slides just get conditioned, I believe they just become thin enough so that the rails start acting as heat sinks and dissipate enough heat to keep them from melting. That last 1.5mm just may have lasted this whole next season. Having said all this I still hate be nervous about them and decided to use the anti-wear pads.
Boys, don't hold your breath, get some piece of mind and go with solution 3.
Starting Line Products 208-529-0244
http://www.startinglineproducts.com/
Part # 25-102 Anti-Wear Pad Kit 40 Pak (other packs available)
Part# 20-160 Track drill 1/4"
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I don't know if these will help with hifax wear. Here are suggestions for that.
1. Put on low snow wheels and add additional idler wheels. This can be expensive and if Yamaha made a decent idler wheel (whole other issue), this could be a long term fix.
2. Cut out the closed windows and clip all the ribs. This is very time consumming and prone to mistakes and somewhat expensive but it works and is a long term fix.
3. SLP anti-wear pads. Cheap, $30. Easy, 2 hours of labor. They work. I put them on my '05 Rs Venture at the beginning of this year and have put on 1700 miles and have only worn off 1.5mm of hifax. The Venture atarts with 18.5mm of hifax and has a wear limit of 10.5mm giving me 8mm of usable hifax. Last year after 1700 miles I had worn off 6mm. Based on this year's rate of wear with the pads, my hifax should last 9,000 miles - SWEEET. One problem with these is that the pads themselves wear, don’t know how long they’ll last but for the price and time to do it, won’t mind replacing them once in a while.
4. Change out the Yamaha idler wheels and put on oversized Poo/Doo wheels. You have to machine the mounts because of different sized bearings but this works and is a long term fix.
5. Be patient, let them wear all the way down. Get a pair of calipers and measure the actual wear. The Venture hyfaxes start off with 18.5mm (top to bottom), manual says wear limit is 10.5mm, giving you 8mm of wear. The first 4mm melted off in 450 miles. At this point you get really nervous and want to change them out but then a switch gets turned on and they quit melting. MM 5 lasted for 450 miles. MM 6 lasted for 500 miles. MM 7 lasted for 830 miles and still half of it to go. I put on 3000 miles ‘04/05 season. And that was the end of the season. I would have loved to seen what that last 1.5mm would have lasted but I'm putting a new set on for the next season. Most people think that the slides just get conditioned, I believe they just become thin enough so that the rails start acting as heat sinks and dissipate enough heat to keep them from melting. That last 1.5mm just may have lasted this whole next season. Having said all this I still hate be nervous about them and decided to use the anti-wear pads.
Boys, don't hold your breath, get some piece of mind and go with solution 3.
Starting Line Products 208-529-0244
http://www.startinglineproducts.com/
Part # 25-102 Anti-Wear Pad Kit 40 Pak (other packs available)
Part# 20-160 Track drill 1/4"
Pics -
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... highlight=
Look at this thread -
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... highlight=
