Woody's tall nuts feedback??

[BADSLED]

In past I have experimented with many different stud brands and have found some better than others. However, I'm still dealing with too many bent studs even with medium height aluminum support nuts (1.375" stud length, 162 studs inside only, 250lbs). Yes, the conditions are not always the greatest where I ride but I shouldn't be bending them the way I do.

Therefore, this time around I ordered some tall aluminum Woody's nylon lock nuts for extra stud support to be used with 1.450" studs. My concern is loosing stud penetration due to the extra beef of the nut.... I would like to use the old Woody's nuts with star washer. Those nuts were tapered for better penetration.

Does anyone still sell the old woody's tall support nuts with star washer???

 

[Yamahammer485]

Almost anyplace sells the old style starwasher/nut combo, my problem was trying to find somewhere that had the nyloc inserts, and last year, couldnt find one place.

The Big nuts will prevent as much bending, but some will bend. The trick to them is to use blue loctite, crank em down like you owuld as if you were done studding, then go back and re tighten them all, some will be loose, and the loose ones will pull through.

You can find these at Royal Distributing in canada still.

 

[Shivesy]

I used the aluminum woodys nylon insert big nuts (4500B) with my stainless series 1.325 woodys studs last year. 1,700 miles and 3 warped square backers out of 144 studs. Not 1 bent stud.
Pay a little extra and buy the nuts with the nylon in the nut. Then once or twice during the season perform a little extra maintenance by rechecking the torque value of each nut. Listed below is where I purchased my studs:

http://www.sled-parts.com/sledparts/sle ... studs.html

 

[Shivesy]

BADSLED:
If your using the same track and your bending a 1.375 stud, going from a 1.375 to a increased stud length of 1.450 seems to me to be compounding the problem. Could you please educate me on your train of thought.

 

[Attak-Firecat]

I've had very good performance from the Tall Big Nuts with no pull-throughs and none bent after 2,200 miles last season, even with marginal conditions in the early part of the season. Mine were nyloc nuts, and i did have to re-torque them, but they held up very well.

For comparison, my long-track Firecat also has a 1.25" track but with regular size nuts, and I've had several bend and two pull out over similar miles.

For full disclosure purposes, I believe a large part of this difference I can attribute to running fewer studs, and all singles whereas the Attak has 152 doubles and singles.

 

[schmeg]

Ran 144 doubles1.325 up the middle with tall nuts on both sleds last year. No bent ones hookup was as good as one can expect with 1.325 inchers. Not great but OK. Durability was fine.

 

[maddogjeff]

My concern with the tall nuts is getting them off when one does bend. Has this been a issue?

BADSLED:
If your using the same track and your bending a 1.375 stud, going from a 1.375 to a increased stud length of 1.450 seems to me to be compounding the problem. Could you please educate me on your train of thought.

I believe it has more to do with the quality of the stud.

1.25 lug 144" Ripsaw track on ’05 RS Venture

In 2005 put on
118 Woody's Gold Digger Traction Master 5/16 1.325, square aluminum backers, regular nuts. $310.
2900 miles.
Bent: 4
Broken: 38
Pull thru: 0

In 2006 replaced all Woody’s with
118 Shade Tree Stainless Steel 2 year warranty 5/16 1.40, Air Lite 45* angle plastic backers, regular nuts. $191.
1900 miles in a worse snow year.
Bent: 0
Broken: 0
Pull thru: 0

2007, 1800 more miles
Bent: 4 slightly.
Broken: 0
Pull thru: 0

 

[BADSLED]

BADSLED:
If your using the same track and your bending a 1.375 stud, going from a 1.375 to a increased stud length of 1.450 seems to me to be compounding the problem. Could you please educate me on your train of thought.

In theory you are absolutely correct. However, different brands have different ways of measuring studs and you may be surprised how much difference there may be compared to claimed height. But yes i am going to a slightly longer stud for increased traction as well as better qualilty stud to resist bending.

As an extra assurance to limit bending I would like to use tall nuts but I may be compromising stud penetration with a thick tall nut.

Just weighing the pro's and con's.

 

[POB88]

I went with 168 mega bites down the center with mid size nuts and 1.325 studs. The tall nuts are for 1.45 and up. 1100 miles no problems.
If I was to do it again I would go with a longer stud.

 

[RTX]

In my opinion the aluminum support nuts are worthless. tried them and found out the hard way.

I run 1.375 studs with mack support washers and nylock nuts. not a single bent stud. This is by far the cheapest stud support out there and it holds up as good if not better than anything i have tried.
3000 miles in maine on some real bad trails

www.mackstud.com