Dynamo^Joe
Newbie
What I am looking for is to send some kits to guys in the future...like December 08.
Please answer 4 questions....
Year/Model?
What state/province are you from?
What elevations will you be running at?
What turbo/brand you have?
What advertised hp?
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Example:
Johnny Nytrowner
07 Nytro
Montana
7500~10000
Cherry's turboshop
265hp
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When I build a kit, I put a kit on a completely brand new sled with a "shake down" of only a few tanks of fuel run through it and start to test. The as the season goes on, i get kits into test sleds that have about 500mi on them so now can see how the kit reacts on a slightly used sled....and maybe the calibration changes over the testing time. You get a common denominator "results" from 6 to 12 test guys and with their feedback commission a kit from there.
I also give out free kits to people I identify have the same sled I am testing and send them all over north america and Europe. From them I want their feedback to see if its "common denominator" as my test guys. So ideally now with a new or used sled the kit should work as advertised...unless something else is out of limits either a high limit or low limit. When a customer has a problem now have to go thru a checklist to see what could be out of limit(s).
There are some that are not drop in and drive....
If a certain owner has some problems, sometimes I end up finding out their roller bushings are worn [even on new sled], primary sliding sheave bushing is worn, cracked secondary buttons/rollers, low battery voltage, failed coolant temperature sensor, Knock Sensor, Throttle Position Sensor, bushings at wear limits.
A clutch kit normally covers a range of clutch fitness that will work with but if your sled is out of the range of calibration then have to figure out the problem why is your sled not responding when have the same kit that are responding well.
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Someone over on dootalk asked me how I made out so far...
I posted this....
The company who makes the turbo has their own clutch setup. After one day of running with it and Brett shaking the sled down getting a good feel all day of how it presently runs....the next morning the first thing I did was take turbo company setup kit out, I don't even care what parts they use - I just stuck something in that I brewed up for the Nytro trail sled and shoved it in the MTX.
Friday
At first if the sled was on a steep hill and pointing down on off camber, Brett would need a lot of room to turn around either turn slow back up the hill or crack the throttle and take a big swing to turn and point up. If Brett had to apply throttle to roll the sled on its side and turn 90 degrees quickly, it was difficult and require a lot of body english.
Saturday
What Brett observe after running The YN2 parts (my parts), he could easily maneuver the sled around when running through the trees better than before.
With YN2 parts has better control of the throttle, could run with less throttle up hills that were tricky and technical going around trees while climbing....when stopped and taking a look at where to go next, if Brett had to turn a sharp 90 degree, he would flip the throttle and the sled basically would do more work for him, he did not have to use as much body english and put the sled right on the side either quick enough he would fall on his side or just spin the sled nearly in 180.
Friday - With turbo company setup, Brett would run up a hill at a certain track speed and maybe ratchet the drive sprocket once or twice when landing after going over a drift. Saturday - With YN2 parts, the sled would ratchet several times and had more track speed. Where we were getting 60km/h track speed on 2-stroke jokes, Brett was getting 110km/h track speed...AND ratcheting the track....HAHAHAHA
With turbo company setup kit brett would hit the rev limiter at 9000 rpms
with YN2 parts, Brett would observe the engine stay at 8750 rpms through a 30 second climb and play with the throttle.
Looks like we are planning to go test for 2 solid days in the future.
Brett said the test was good because of this kind of snow [wet heavy] except that even a short track can do good in it because its [set up]
A December/January test will be the best to find something all around or find a choice between 2 types of conditions; because of fluffy snow and cold temperatures keep the snow from [setting up] for days instead of like right now, the snow sets up in a day.
I don't know much about mountains, but am learning by asking questions and getting out there more - There seems to be several types of setup snow "rock hard" and "wet heavy" or wet-heavy with crust underneath to where both you can get super good traction on and do a long pull but the rock hard will reveal really high track speeds and the wet heavy will reveal low track speeds however if you have the power, you can maintain track speed to do a long climb but it just makes clutch temperatures soar right off the scale, you come back after a pull, take a break and open your side panel to cool clutches off.
The other important thing about early testing is "Bottomless" snow where there is no set-up snow underneath.
This YN2 parts may be good right now but maybe not the best in fluff/cold "Bottomless" snow and that is what I have to figure out. Brett is 265 and that sled weighs a TON....After explaining to the guys what job the secondary has to do [clutch theory lesson] all those guys figure that the best time to test would be in the fluff months to deal with calibration that works good from starting off to low track speeds .
IF Brett can get the sled to move with good throttle control and not trench in the early season powder
THEN I will have a home run for a clutch kit.
My goal is to learn the different types of snow and then find an overlap to which a clutch setup will work all around or can change one part if wanting to get picky with a setup for that day.
I never been on a trail sled that pulled that hard. good gawd!
Please answer 4 questions....
Year/Model?
What state/province are you from?
What elevations will you be running at?
What turbo/brand you have?
What advertised hp?
----------------
Example:
Johnny Nytrowner
07 Nytro
Montana
7500~10000
Cherry's turboshop
265hp
----------------
When I build a kit, I put a kit on a completely brand new sled with a "shake down" of only a few tanks of fuel run through it and start to test. The as the season goes on, i get kits into test sleds that have about 500mi on them so now can see how the kit reacts on a slightly used sled....and maybe the calibration changes over the testing time. You get a common denominator "results" from 6 to 12 test guys and with their feedback commission a kit from there.
I also give out free kits to people I identify have the same sled I am testing and send them all over north america and Europe. From them I want their feedback to see if its "common denominator" as my test guys. So ideally now with a new or used sled the kit should work as advertised...unless something else is out of limits either a high limit or low limit. When a customer has a problem now have to go thru a checklist to see what could be out of limit(s).
There are some that are not drop in and drive....
If a certain owner has some problems, sometimes I end up finding out their roller bushings are worn [even on new sled], primary sliding sheave bushing is worn, cracked secondary buttons/rollers, low battery voltage, failed coolant temperature sensor, Knock Sensor, Throttle Position Sensor, bushings at wear limits.
A clutch kit normally covers a range of clutch fitness that will work with but if your sled is out of the range of calibration then have to figure out the problem why is your sled not responding when have the same kit that are responding well.
----------------
Someone over on dootalk asked me how I made out so far...
I posted this....
The company who makes the turbo has their own clutch setup. After one day of running with it and Brett shaking the sled down getting a good feel all day of how it presently runs....the next morning the first thing I did was take turbo company setup kit out, I don't even care what parts they use - I just stuck something in that I brewed up for the Nytro trail sled and shoved it in the MTX.
Friday
At first if the sled was on a steep hill and pointing down on off camber, Brett would need a lot of room to turn around either turn slow back up the hill or crack the throttle and take a big swing to turn and point up. If Brett had to apply throttle to roll the sled on its side and turn 90 degrees quickly, it was difficult and require a lot of body english.
Saturday
What Brett observe after running The YN2 parts (my parts), he could easily maneuver the sled around when running through the trees better than before.
With YN2 parts has better control of the throttle, could run with less throttle up hills that were tricky and technical going around trees while climbing....when stopped and taking a look at where to go next, if Brett had to turn a sharp 90 degree, he would flip the throttle and the sled basically would do more work for him, he did not have to use as much body english and put the sled right on the side either quick enough he would fall on his side or just spin the sled nearly in 180.
Friday - With turbo company setup, Brett would run up a hill at a certain track speed and maybe ratchet the drive sprocket once or twice when landing after going over a drift. Saturday - With YN2 parts, the sled would ratchet several times and had more track speed. Where we were getting 60km/h track speed on 2-stroke jokes, Brett was getting 110km/h track speed...AND ratcheting the track....HAHAHAHA
With turbo company setup kit brett would hit the rev limiter at 9000 rpms
with YN2 parts, Brett would observe the engine stay at 8750 rpms through a 30 second climb and play with the throttle.
Looks like we are planning to go test for 2 solid days in the future.
Brett said the test was good because of this kind of snow [wet heavy] except that even a short track can do good in it because its [set up]
A December/January test will be the best to find something all around or find a choice between 2 types of conditions; because of fluffy snow and cold temperatures keep the snow from [setting up] for days instead of like right now, the snow sets up in a day.
I don't know much about mountains, but am learning by asking questions and getting out there more - There seems to be several types of setup snow "rock hard" and "wet heavy" or wet-heavy with crust underneath to where both you can get super good traction on and do a long pull but the rock hard will reveal really high track speeds and the wet heavy will reveal low track speeds however if you have the power, you can maintain track speed to do a long climb but it just makes clutch temperatures soar right off the scale, you come back after a pull, take a break and open your side panel to cool clutches off.
The other important thing about early testing is "Bottomless" snow where there is no set-up snow underneath.
This YN2 parts may be good right now but maybe not the best in fluff/cold "Bottomless" snow and that is what I have to figure out. Brett is 265 and that sled weighs a TON....After explaining to the guys what job the secondary has to do [clutch theory lesson] all those guys figure that the best time to test would be in the fluff months to deal with calibration that works good from starting off to low track speeds .
IF Brett can get the sled to move with good throttle control and not trench in the early season powder
THEN I will have a home run for a clutch kit.
My goal is to learn the different types of snow and then find an overlap to which a clutch setup will work all around or can change one part if wanting to get picky with a setup for that day.
I never been on a trail sled that pulled that hard. good gawd!
welcome over here on the darkside joey!
how bout a non turbo kit?
08 fx Nytro mtx
1-2 trips per year in
wyoming
7500'~10000'
non turbo 135hp
mostly northern ontario 900-2000'
live in michigan.
i'm the one with the zx440 136 with all the billet wheels, (and your clutching) dootalk moderator. ski
how bout a non turbo kit?
08 fx Nytro mtx
1-2 trips per year in
wyoming
7500'~10000'
non turbo 135hp
mostly northern ontario 900-2000'
live in michigan.
i'm the one with the zx440 136 with all the billet wheels, (and your clutching) dootalk moderator. ski
JOEY!!!!!
LOVE your kit on my Rev, now we just need to get you out west!!! RUmor has it you were in Revy, and didnt even say hello to us in Montana
Here are the answers...
Please answer 4 questions....
Year/Model? 2008 FY Ntro MTX
What state/province are you from? Montana USA
What elevations will you be running at? 3-10k
What turbo/brand you have? Garret 25
What advertised hp? 218
Personal opinion, there is a HUGE market for guys in the 200 HP range...so far though you ahve seen LOADS of folk buying BIG HP sleds, but as these things get more and more user friendly, the bigger market will be in the 8-12 PSI range...
LOVE your kit on my Rev, now we just need to get you out west!!! RUmor has it you were in Revy, and didnt even say hello to us in Montana
Here are the answers...
Please answer 4 questions....
Year/Model? 2008 FY Ntro MTX
What state/province are you from? Montana USA
What elevations will you be running at? 3-10k
What turbo/brand you have? Garret 25
What advertised hp? 218
Personal opinion, there is a HUGE market for guys in the 200 HP range...so far though you ahve seen LOADS of folk buying BIG HP sleds, but as these things get more and more user friendly, the bigger market will be in the 8-12 PSI range...
ttabs
Extreme
Here ya go big D
Year/Model? 2008 FX Ntro
What state/province are you from? Idaho
What elevations will you be running at? 3-6k
What turbo/brand you have? NW Turbo - Garret 25
What advertised hp? 218
Oh and 8 lbs boost.
DEC 8th?!? Joey - we can't wait that long!!!! The clutching needs help bad on these sleds.
Throw me a BONE!!!!
Year/Model? 2008 FX Ntro
What state/province are you from? Idaho
What elevations will you be running at? 3-6k
What turbo/brand you have? NW Turbo - Garret 25
What advertised hp? 218
Oh and 8 lbs boost.
DEC 8th?!? Joey - we can't wait that long!!!! The clutching needs help bad on these sleds.
Throw me a BONE!!!!
yeah, he cant wait for some of us early adoters can he? that would be almost sacrilige!!!!
woodsrider
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
- Joined
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- USA
- Snowmobile
- 2017 YZ450FX1 Moto-Trax 137 Mountain Kit
08 FX Nytro MTX
Idaho / Oregon
4500-8500ft Elev
Boondocker Mid Mt / Garret GT28
15# boost / 255hp @ 6000ft
Idaho / Oregon
4500-8500ft Elev
Boondocker Mid Mt / Garret GT28
15# boost / 255hp @ 6000ft
grizzly660
Extreme
2008 mtx nytro
Montana/Wyoming
8000 to 10000 feet elevation
Powderlites turbo this summer
235 to 285 horse depending on boost pressure.
Usually put on 500 miles before December, I love to ride and this sled rocks.
Montana/Wyoming
8000 to 10000 feet elevation
Powderlites turbo this summer
235 to 285 horse depending on boost pressure.
Usually put on 500 miles before December, I love to ride and this sled rocks.
nytroboost
Newbie
NW turbo Nytro
2008 Nytro MTX
Strathmore, Alberta
6000-8000 feet
NW Turbo
GT2554RS
8 LBS Boost
190-200 hp
2008 Nytro MTX
Strathmore, Alberta
6000-8000 feet
NW Turbo
GT2554RS
8 LBS Boost
190-200 hp
yukon yamaha
TY 4 Stroke Master
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2008 NYTRO RTX
WHITEHORSE , YUKON
2-3000 FEET
MCX TURBO REAR MOUNT
15-20 LBS OF BOOST
240-250 HP
WHITEHORSE , YUKON
2-3000 FEET
MCX TURBO REAR MOUNT
15-20 LBS OF BOOST
240-250 HP
2008 nytro fx rtx
Sweden
1000-3000 feet
mcx
260-270 hp
Sweden
1000-3000 feet
mcx
260-270 hp
Hillclimber
Veteran
Joey,
Here you go.
2008 Nytro MTX
Colorado, USA
10,000-13,000+
MCX / Mitsubishi 16T
200hp @10lbs
Advertised to 240hp
Here you go.
2008 Nytro MTX
Colorado, USA
10,000-13,000+
MCX / Mitsubishi 16T
200hp @10lbs
Advertised to 240hp
tranquillicer
Newbie
2008 Nytro mtx
Sask., Canada
2,000'
Stock 135hp
Been waiting for this Joey!!!!!!!!
Sask., Canada
2,000'
Stock 135hp
Been waiting for this Joey!!!!!!!!
r0tax
Pro
2008 Nytro MTX
Colorado/Wyoming, USA
8,000-13,000
Impulse (mid-mount) / Garrett 28RS
220HP (?) @ 12lbs
Colorado/Wyoming, USA
8,000-13,000
Impulse (mid-mount) / Garrett 28RS
220HP (?) @ 12lbs
'08 MTX
Wyoming
8000-10,000'
Non-Turbo w/ Mods
145-150 HP
Wyoming
8000-10,000'
Non-Turbo w/ Mods
145-150 HP
