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pimpedrsrage said:
obviously the wsa hasnt looked at dirtbike racin or quads lately...have they?!?
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In my opinion, the WSA is a lot like NASCAR. They WANT it to be the Blair Morgan Show.
If Doo came out with a kick-butt 4-stroke sno-x sled, and Morgan wanted to race it, you can bet the WSA would change the rules in a heartbeat.
Considering that BRP has made it abundantly clear that they are comitted to SDI 2-strokes, I dont see that happening any time soon.
Cap'n
 

I keep thinking what Yamaha's plans are for Blair Morgan?

They just signed him again for racing bikes!

I keep thinking maybe just maybe if they can get in SNO-X again they've got him!!!

BR
 
I dont see that happening.
Remember, Blair Morgan has his own race team and with his attitude of Canadian superiority, I dont see him on anything that doesnt say BRP on it.
Afterall, he is # 7C and used to have a Canadian flag on the back of his sled.
I think that riding a Yamaha would offend his national pride too much.
Cap'n
 
I hope some big green ones will convert him from the dark side. I guess he can be turned by some (a lot I guess) $$$ USD. :D :flag:
 
I've got this answere from

mbruber [mbruber@wsaracing.com]

He said:

WSA and Yamaha are working on things right now for future Yamaha racing efforts. Keep tuned


Words from WSA relayed by rxrider
 
Blair Morgan is just like any other racer of any type. Unlike the common folk who are brand loyal, Morgan and the rest couldn't give two poops what brand of sled, car, bike, or quad they ride as long as they have big dollars and factory support.
 
Captain_Toyota said:
In my opinion, the WSA is a lot like NASCAR. They WANT it to be the Blair Morgan Show.
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Actually you couldn't be more wrong. WSA is dying because there is no one for him to race. The WSA prays every day that Tucker will come back. They need both big names or neither to grow. And they are hurtin right now.

And how is that like Nascar anyways? Nascar is successful because there are many great drivers for fans to follow.
 
kenlacy said:
Actually you couldn't be more wrong. WSA is dying because there is no one for him to race. The WSA prays every day that Tucker will come back. They need both big names or neither to grow. And they are hurtin right now.

And how is that like Nascar anyways? Nascar is successful because there are many great drivers for fans to follow.
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The WSA is dying because its so expensive to merely attend an event.
I ask you this, when has the WSA ever punished Morgan for his dirty racing tactics? Ive heard of block passing and rubbing, but Morgan just runs people off the track if he cant pass them clean. The WSA has NEVER handed him ANY kind of penalty that I can recall.
That is how they are like NASCAR. NASCAR has always had its select few people who they let do pretty much whatever they want.
For a long time it was Dale Earnhardt. How many times did he knock people into the wall when he couldnt pass them cleanly? Remember that one year at Bristol when he knocked Terry Labonte into the wall on the last lap. Then, at the post-race interview he said, "I just wanted to rattle his cage a little bit, I didnt mean to put him into the wall." We all know thats BS because he hit Labonte so hard that his back tires were up in the air.
How about Tony Stewart? How many times has he lost his temper on the race track and done something stupid? Yet, NASCAR does nothing more than to hand out a fine that is little more than pocketchange to these millionares.
If these drivers were in F1, they would have been banned from the sport long ago. In F1, if you so much as make contact with another car and its viewed as being even the slightest bit intentional, they park you for the rest of the race, no questions asked.
Cap'n
 
In fact, in F1 if you try to go 2-wide in a corner and your front tires arent at least even with the car you are trying to pass, they park you and hand out a HUGE fine.
Schumacher has even gotten fines for this, so dont try to tell me that they favor him in F1. Granted, he wins just about every race but he is a very talented driver who races for a team that has all the money in the world.
Cap'n
 
Why do you think it is so freakin boring to watch F1 - no contact or competition :) (the comp has changed a little for the better this year) F1 does favor Ferrari big time - or I should say - they allow money to affect the outcome much more than Nascar. It is actually finally beginning to even up a bit in F1 - finally. I have always loved F1 but it has become very brutal to watch for the last 4 years.

I think it is hard to say that WSA is favoring Morgan - while I don't agree with his tactics, other riders are also able to do the same without much harrassment. It doesn't seem that expensive for a spectator, but it is becoming increasingly expensive for the racers. IF you are not factory - then you pretty much plan on losing money every year - or I should say, invest in your hobby! We have friends, parents of and those who raced in both womens and mens so I get a quite of bit of insight.

There was a time - when Earnhardt was dominant about 10 years ago and earlier that he got away with a lot of bs. But particularly in the last 5 years, Helton and the boys are pretty firm with all drivers. And Stewart gets his fair share of fines - and I'd hardly say he is any more aggressive than many of the other drivers. The media just doesn't like him much because he literally kicks their #*$&@ :)

The only argument that Nascar might show slight favoritism would be towards JR the last few years but there were just a few minor occurences IMO.

Main thing I don't like what Nascar is doing over the last few years is throwing late cautions for little to no reason - particularly when someone is running away with the race so they can tighten them back up.
 
kenlacy said:
Why do you think it is so freakin boring to watch F1 - no contact or competition :) (the comp has changed a little for the better this year) F1 does favor Ferrari big time - or I should say - they allow money to affect the outcome much more than Nascar. It is actually finally beginning to even up a bit in F1 - finally. I have always loved F1 but it has become very brutal to watch for the last 4 years.
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:ORC Ferrari hasnt won a race yet this year. In fact, Ferrari is in 3rd place in the constructor's champioship right now behind Renault and Toyota.
I personally love F1. Always have. The drivers are literally on the verge of crashing in each and every corner and each week the track is completely different (unlike NASCAR which seems to be going more and more to 1 1/2 mile D-shaped ovals).
I used to be big into NASCAR but its gotten to be so much BS that I have mostly lost interest. The only series I really keep up on is the truck series. Its fun to watch Toyota beat the domestics at their own game. ;)!
Cap'n
 
Not much of a reality check - As I stated, the competition is showing up this year finally - mostly because Ferrari is having problems though.

F1 drivers have the benefit of traction control, that doesn't take away the fact that they are excellent drivers, but definitely makes it less impressive.

Jeff Gordon jumped in one last year at Indi and in one day (first time driving an F1 car) was running lap times that would have qualified him mid pack for a the race that was run at Indi. He loved the cars and it would be sweet for him or Tony Stewart to run F1 but unfortunately it will likely never happen.

It is great Toyota is in trucks and they will be in Cup within a few years. It is great for the sport. Toyota isn't really beating them at their own game. They hired on people who have been playing the game for a long time. Just another manu doing well. Now if they had brought in their own people, then it would have been a big feat!

Sad thing is - they have the idiot DW on their commercials. His boogity crap has got to stop!
 
kenlacy said:
F1 drivers have the benefit of traction control, that doesn't take away the fact that they are excellent drivers, but definitely makes it less impressive.
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Actually, traction controll was outlawed a few years ago.

Jeff Gordon jumped in one last year at Indi and in one day (first time driving an F1 car) was running lap times that would have qualified him mid pack for a the race that was run at Indi. He loved the cars and it would be sweet for him or Tony Stewart to run F1 but unfortunately it will likely never happen.
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True, but remember Gordon came from an open-wheel background so its not like its a huge change for him. Besides, he ran the Williams BMW, which is just as good as the Ferrari and he qualified mid-pack. Thats really not all that impressive.

It is great Toyota is in trucks and they will be in Cup within a few years. It is great for the sport. Toyota isn't really beating them at their own game. They hired on people who have been playing the game for a long time. Just another manu doing well. Now if they had brought in their own people, then it would have been a big feat!
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Most of those people arent with Toyota anymore. Essentially, the people they brought in who had NASCAR experience didnt want to run things the way Toyota did, so Toyota basically said to them, "We know this isnt the way YOU did it, but this IS the way we are going to do it. You can either do it our way or theres the door." All of the trucks are made in-house by TRD (Toyota Racing Development). None of the teams have to do any fabrication or engine r&d.
Cap'n
 
Captain_Toyota said:
Actually, traction controll was outlawed a few years ago.
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I didn't realize that, the cars they ran at Indi before last season had it, so this must be the second year?

True, but remember Gordon came from an open-wheel background so its not like its a huge change for him. Besides, he ran the Williams BMW, which is just as good as the Ferrari and he qualified mid-pack. Thats really not all that impressive.
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Your kidding right? Not that impressive? Many Nascar drivers come with open wheel experience. Not to mention Gordons open wheel experience is on dirttracks and pavement sliding sideways in a sprint car - nothing like F1, Indy cars or any of the similar lower ranks. Montoya couldn't come close to running fast times in a stock car, but I wouldn't expect it either because he has never driven one. He was quick to say they are a lot of work compared to a F1 car. Twice the weight and half the contact patch.

Most of those people arent with Toyota anymore. Essentially, the people they brought in who had NASCAR experience didnt want to run things the way Toyota did, so Toyota basically said to them, "We know this isnt the way YOU did it, but this IS the way we are going to do it. You can either do it our way or theres the door." All of the trucks are made in-house by TRD (Toyota Racing Development). None of the teams have to do any fabrication or engine r&d.
Cap'n
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Cmon - a majority of the guys in the pits and driving the cars all have significant Nascar experience. I do not know who they have building the engines and chassis now, but once they got schooled on that and let go the ones who schooled them, that is all they needed to get rolling. Toyota is doing a great job and I am glad to see it.
 
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