Superstroker1
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Actually, Yamaha hit the nail on the head with the Apex line...and the rest of the manufactures are scared!
I was reading American Snowmobile magazine recently and I noticed there is very little ink on any Yamaha products, except paid adds. However, most of the ink spent to produce this issue was dedicated to Polaris. Just about ever page of that magazine had "Polaris" topics.
Frankly, I could care less, to tell you the truth but the funny thing, I mean the really laughable page was in fact a Skidoo add that compared the weights of the sleds. They claimed the "dumb" snowmobilers who spend big bucks on sleds every year would be swayed by a 40 pound diffference in weight.
Do we really realize how insignificant 40 pounds actually is?
Well...I could stand to loose about 70 pounds of body fat, now I'm really fast!
I could forget to add 4 gallons of fuel to the fuel tank.
I could loose 20 pounds of that 40 by purchasing high tech gear...boots, suits, helmets etc.
I could knock 30 pounds of ice off of my skid, tunnel and chassis..late in the day, after a long ride.
Point is;
What a joke these manufactureres can be with the shots they take at each other and the psychology they use to influence our collective minds.
If you bought an Apex this year...you'll be riding the best engineered snowmobile product ever produce and sold to the public!
American Snowmobile magazine should be called Polaris American Snowmobile magazine.
I was reading American Snowmobile magazine recently and I noticed there is very little ink on any Yamaha products, except paid adds. However, most of the ink spent to produce this issue was dedicated to Polaris. Just about ever page of that magazine had "Polaris" topics.
Frankly, I could care less, to tell you the truth but the funny thing, I mean the really laughable page was in fact a Skidoo add that compared the weights of the sleds. They claimed the "dumb" snowmobilers who spend big bucks on sleds every year would be swayed by a 40 pound diffference in weight.
Do we really realize how insignificant 40 pounds actually is?
Well...I could stand to loose about 70 pounds of body fat, now I'm really fast!
I could forget to add 4 gallons of fuel to the fuel tank.
I could loose 20 pounds of that 40 by purchasing high tech gear...boots, suits, helmets etc.
I could knock 30 pounds of ice off of my skid, tunnel and chassis..late in the day, after a long ride.
Point is;
What a joke these manufactureres can be with the shots they take at each other and the psychology they use to influence our collective minds.
If you bought an Apex this year...you'll be riding the best engineered snowmobile product ever produce and sold to the public!
American Snowmobile magazine should be called Polaris American Snowmobile magazine.
Swiss Sledder
TY 4 Stroke God
Polaris is doing some serious marketing this year because they really screwed up last year with the conFusion. There are a number of post season reviews on 2005 conFusion that are extremely critical, and the 2006 reviews are only a little better. That AmSnow edition is how Polaris is trying to protect their market share since they don't have as good a product line as the others.
yamadoo
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I agree the 'OTHER THREE' are very concerned about the snowmobile public buying into the 4 stroke , high tech slightly heavier but just as good handling Yamaha's.
I mean if you/we are really honest with ourself and consider all costs, options, durability etc. the obvious choice is yamaha. If you want to race and tenths or hundreths of a second matter than the wt may be an issue. Other wise you are comparing 4 stroke, fuel injected technology against 2 stroke injection, ya clean and lighter (slightly) but you still have expensive oil and not slightly but huge defferences in longevity like 2 to 4 times the miles before rebuilds.
I think with the advancing age of snowmobilers, will come with wisdom and yamaha is going to be sitting pretty.
My 2 cents
yamadoo
I mean if you/we are really honest with ourself and consider all costs, options, durability etc. the obvious choice is yamaha. If you want to race and tenths or hundreths of a second matter than the wt may be an issue. Other wise you are comparing 4 stroke, fuel injected technology against 2 stroke injection, ya clean and lighter (slightly) but you still have expensive oil and not slightly but huge defferences in longevity like 2 to 4 times the miles before rebuilds.
I think with the advancing age of snowmobilers, will come with wisdom and yamaha is going to be sitting pretty.
My 2 cents
yamadoo
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Secretly they all wish they were riding hammers!
Tork
TY 4 Stroke God
People of the world, no strike that, people of the universe UNITE!
These sleds are right in there with the Fusion and Mach Z weight wise,
end of discussion.
Sure against a MisFire 600 or something they are heavier but that is a different class of sled altogether.
These sleds are right in there with the Fusion and Mach Z weight wise,
end of discussion.
Sure against a MisFire 600 or something they are heavier but that is a different class of sled altogether.
Bakemono
TY 4 Stroke Guru
There was a Doo ad this month in Snow Tech like that. It said something like "for a 4-stroke feel buy a 2-TEC SDI engine and a 40-pound rock".
Its just more BRP half-truths. They fail to mention that the 4-stroke powerband is twice as wide as that of a 2-stroke, not to mention oil cost and the cost of piston ring replacement every 5,000 miles.
Ive enjoyed my 2-stroke sleds over the years, but I honestly cant see myself buying another 2-stroke sled. Its pretty funny that it took me a mere 10-minute demo ride to come to this realization. LOL
Cap'n
Its just more BRP half-truths. They fail to mention that the 4-stroke powerband is twice as wide as that of a 2-stroke, not to mention oil cost and the cost of piston ring replacement every 5,000 miles.
Ive enjoyed my 2-stroke sleds over the years, but I honestly cant see myself buying another 2-stroke sled. Its pretty funny that it took me a mere 10-minute demo ride to come to this realization. LOL
Cap'n