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With the current battery technology no, they aren’t there yet. Will it be in 5 years? Probably not but it’ll be pretty nice once it becomes mainstream. Right now for the type of riding I like to do, a Taiga would work out just fine for me. I’m not going to order one, my plan is to sit things out...

Initially the EV models likely won’t be particularly desirable, just like EV automobiles today. But, they will get better quickly. I don’t plan on being an early adopter but I’m certainly not opposed to the technology. Prices on current sleds is stupid. I’d rather be getting something new and...

Sadly I think this is what we’ll see in a few weeks. A bunch of blue, non-current Arctic Cats. Yamaha will see old Pro-cross chassis sleds until they move to an electric sled lineup. Ski-doo already released a limited built, electric sled for ski resort use. I think Yamaha will be poised to do...

Dang! The total lack of excitement and enthusiasm towards the ‘24 models should be pretty alarming to Yamaha. For the record I’m expecting nothing. How long does Yamaha justify having a sled division if all they are selling is non current blue Arctic Cats? I think I can say with much accuracy...

This makes a lot of sense. I’m bummed as there is no passion or excitement with this approach but it does provide their dealers with a product to sell in the winter months. Yamaha quit trying in the sled market after they released the Sidewinder, and even then it could be argued that their heart...

Cat was stupid for dropping Suzuki and losing out on the bulletproof 570 fan cooled motor. If Cat and Yamaha had half a brain they’d put the 540 fan in the Transporter Lite but they won‘t. They are too dumb to do something that makes sense. Why compete with the Polaris 550 on price when they’d...

Yamaha has nothing for ‘24 except blue Procross chassis Sidewinders, 400cc Vipers, and the Cat Norseman. That’s it. They won’t even be getting the new Cataylist sled. The Yamaha sled division is a year or two away from being completely done, folded up and forgotten about.

The average snowmobiles age is 53 according to the ISMA. https://www.snowmobile.org/snowmobile-sales-data-2021-2022.html Yearly sled sales have been on a downward trend since their high point in ‘97. Some years they sell more than others but the trend isn’t moving upwards. With climate change...

I never forget things like that from a dealer. That would cause me to hold a grudge against them until they either closed shop or went under different management.

There is no way in hell I’m paying MSRP for a new sled and most certainly won’t pay over. I’ll wait this ridiculous out and be back in the market when things go back to normal. Besides, why would anyone want to pay an inflated price for a sled that has barely been changed since they came out?

Totally agree, there is no way Yamaha sells more sleds than Cat. If that were true, how the F does Cat expect it’s dealers to survive? I’ve read they’ve lost a lot of Cat dealers over the past few years. But I’ve never read or seen anything that Yamaha was not firmly in 4th place in sales, just...

Unfortunately this is sounding like a repeat of the Yamaha times from ‘10 until present. “Just wait until next year, they will be coming out with something new.”

Whoa, whoa, whoa…. You can’t release advanced tech like that all in one year. It has to come out in stages, right side hotgrip in ‘24 and then left side in ‘25.

It’s funny how Yamaha was the company that wasn‘t updating their sleds and making changes guys were requesting and complaining about on the forums from around ‘10-’13. Then Yamaha partners with Cat and comes out with the Viper in ‘14…. and then back to no progression or innovation. The...

Nothing I’ve seen so far in Cat’s ‘23 lineup got me even remotely excited. That means Yamaha won’t have squat for new this year.

I hope this is the case. The production agreement has sucked from day one and has gone from bad to worse over the past few years. I think they got burned by the proposed emission regs that never went into place. They went all in on 4-strokes and then got stuck with product the majority of the...

I can see them being done with gas sleds in the performance arena but they are still building the VK and a couple Deltabox models in Japan. I can see them transitioning to Japan built electric sleds for the future.

It’s encouraging to see these. They currently have an electric trials bike and there was a YouTube video about them working with another company on an electric YZ motorcross bike. They’ve been building electric bicycles since the late 80’s or early 90’s so it seems totally natural for them to...

Unfortunately the sport has been in a downward trend since ‘97. Most every year fewer new people are coming in to replace those that leave. Another aspect of sled sales I don’t see being talking about much is most existing owners have more than one new or a few year old sled. All of my riding...

The recent spike in prices, $5.63 for 90 octane in my area has caused me to cut back on riding. Now I’m more inclined to go when conditions have good light, not just whenever I want. I suspect those newbies to the power sports market are having second thoughts about if they want to stay with the...