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2023 is there 55 anniversary

well just went to polaris dealer in canada an to buy the assault it came in at 25k plus 1k freight an setup know add tax it is close to 30k for an snowmobile it the world gone crazy.
Agree 100% but people keep buying them so as a manufacture they will keep selling them at a crazy price. I am not sure what the answer is to stop the price raping....
Wish I had the magical solution but I don't....the only thing I can come up with is to stop buying but we all love the sport so that is not an option to most
 

Well one place where I ride is $7.29 for 90 non ethanol. Between filling our own vehicles and then sleds that will take a shot at sales. Wondering how many current people that snow checked have canceled them after fuel prices jumped in past week.
You bring up an excellent point. Gas here in Southern Ontario is currently $1.89/litre. That is $8.5 per gallon for my USA friends.
Keep in mind that is not premium fuel that our 2 strokes require. On my last trip to Algonquin Park two weeks ago we paid $1.79/litre for 93 octane. We are leaving Sunday for our last sled trip at Algonquin Park on Sunday and expect to have to pay $2.00+/litre for premium.
Glad its our last trip and hope they get this crap figured out sooooon
 
I've heard people say for decades they are going to leave the sport. Some do, some don't, but there are always more to replace those that exit.
YOLO!
 
I've heard people say for decades they are going to leave the sport. Some do, some don't, but there are always more to replace those that exit.
YOLO!
Unfortunately the sport has been in a downward trend since ‘97. Most every year fewer new people are coming in to replace those that leave. Another aspect of sled sales I don’t see being talking about much is most existing owners have more than one new or a few year old sled.

All of my riding buddy’s have two to three sleds that only date back to ‘16. I don’t know if this is normal or the exception? With some many buyers having gotten burned by this years snowcheck. The majority seem to be ordering a new sled and holding on to their existing one. I don’t see this being sustainable for long term.
 
you guys need to face faxes that Yamaha is done the R&D is closed know this month no more R&D being done an now engineers where all let so what does that tell we will be driving all Cat sled painted yamaha colors the only thing in those sled will be yamaha will be motors .
United States Patent Application
20220063764
Kind Code
A1
MATSUSHITA; Yasushi
March 3, 2022

ELECTRIC SNOWMOBILE

Abstract

An electric snowmobile that prevents temperature rise of a control unit is provided. An electric snowmobile includes a body frame extending in a front-rear direction, a driver's seat supported by the body frame, an electric motor supported by the body frame, a ski supported by the body frame, a track mechanism including a track belt, supported by the body frame below the driver's seat, a battery that supplies electric power to the electric motor, and an inverter including an electronic component controlling a rotation of the electric motor and a housing for housing the electronic component. An opening is formed in the body frame so that a portion of the inverter is exposed from the opening to face the track belt.


Inventors:​
MATSUSHITA; Yasushi; (Shizuoka, JP)
Applicant:​
Name​
City​
State​
Country​
Type​

Yamaha Hatsudoki Kabushiki Kaisha

Shizuoka

JP​
Assignee:​
Yamaha Hatsudoki Kabushiki Kaisha
Family ID:​
1000005824601
Appl. No.:​
17/395479
Filed:​
August 6, 2021



Current U.S. Class:
1/1
Current CPC Class:
B60L 58/26 20190201; B62M 27/02 20130101; B62M 2027/028 20130101; B60L 50/66 20190201​
International Class:
B62M 27/02 20060101 B62M027/02; B60L 58/26 20060101 B60L058/26; B60L 50/60 20060101 B60L050/60​



Foreign Application Data

Date​
Code​
Application Number​
Aug 26, 2020​
JP​
2020-142378​

Claims



1. An electric snowmobile, comprising: a body frame extending in a front-rear direction; a driver's seat supported by the body frame; an electric motor supported by the body frame; a ski supported by the body frame; a track mechanism, which includes a track belt, and which is supported by the body frame below the driver's seat; a battery that supplies electric power to the electric motor; and a control unit including an electronic component and a housing for housing the electronic component, the electronic component controlling a rotation of the electric motor or driving of the battery, wherein an opening is formed in the body frame so that a portion of the control unit is exposed from the opening to face the track belt.

2. The electric snowmobile according to claim 1, wherein a heat dissipating structure is provided in the housing, and the opening exposes the heat dissipating structure so as to face the track belt.

3. The electric snowmobile according to claim 2, wherein the heat dissipating structure includes a plurality of radiator fins protruding to an outside of the body frame.

4. The electric snowmobile according to claim 3,
 
United States Patent Application
20220063764
Kind Code
A1
MATSUSHITA; Yasushi
March 3, 2022

ELECTRIC SNOWMOBILE

Abstract

An electric snowmobile that prevents temperature rise of a control unit is provided. An electric snowmobile includes a body frame extending in a front-rear direction, a driver's seat supported by the body frame, an electric motor supported by the body frame, a ski supported by the body frame, a track mechanism including a track belt, supported by the body frame below the driver's seat, a battery that supplies electric power to the electric motor, and an inverter including an electronic component controlling a rotation of the electric motor and a housing for housing the electronic component. An opening is formed in the body frame so that a portion of the inverter is exposed from the opening to face the track belt.


Inventors:​
MATSUSHITA; Yasushi; (Shizuoka, JP)
Applicant:​
Name​
City​
State​
Country​
Type​

Yamaha Hatsudoki Kabushiki Kaisha

Shizuoka

JP​
Assignee:​
Yamaha Hatsudoki Kabushiki Kaisha
Family ID:​
1000005824601
Appl. No.:​
17/395479
Filed:​
August 6, 2021



Current U.S. Class:
1/1
Current CPC Class:
B60L 58/26 20190201; B62M 27/02 20130101; B62M 2027/028 20130101; B60L 50/66 20190201​
International Class:
B62M 27/02 20060101 B62M027/02; B60L 58/26 20060101 B60L058/26; B60L 50/60 20060101 B60L050/60​



Foreign Application Data

Date​
Code​
Application Number​
Aug 26, 2020​
JP​
2020-142378​

Claims



1. An electric snowmobile, comprising: a body frame extending in a front-rear direction; a driver's seat supported by the body frame; an electric motor supported by the body frame; a ski supported by the body frame; a track mechanism, which includes a track belt, and which is supported by the body frame below the driver's seat; a battery that supplies electric power to the electric motor; and a control unit including an electronic component and a housing for housing the electronic component, the electronic component controlling a rotation of the electric motor or driving of the battery, wherein an opening is formed in the body frame so that a portion of the control unit is exposed from the opening to face the track belt.

2. The electric snowmobile according to claim 1, wherein a heat dissipating structure is provided in the housing, and the opening exposes the heat dissipating structure so as to face the track belt.

3. The electric snowmobile according to claim 2, wherein the heat dissipating structure includes a plurality of radiator fins protruding to an outside of the body frame.

4. The electric snowmobile according to claim 3,
you know that was not just done it take years to write a patten up then it goes to corp lawyers to read to check it to make sure some else has not filed then then file them. sorry to tell you there is no R&D being done by Yamaha snowmobile in canada or the US they Fired all the R&D people and and the building will be lock up at the end of month.
 
you know that was not just done it take years to write a patten up then it goes to corp lawyers to read to check it to make sure some else has not filed then then file them. sorry to tell you there is no R&D being done by Yamaha snowmobile in canada or the US they Fired all the R&D people and and the building will be lock up at the end of month.
It’s encouraging to see these. They currently have an electric trials bike and there was a YouTube video about them working with another company on an electric YZ motorcross bike. They’ve been building electric bicycles since the late 80’s or early 90’s so it seems totally natural for them to be transitioning over to electric sleds.
 
you know that was not just done it take years to write a patten up then it goes to corp lawyers to read to check it to make sure some else has not filed then then file them. sorry to tell you there is no R&D being done by Yamaha snowmobile in canada or the US they Fired all the R&D people and and the building will be lock up at the end of month.
Yea it's first draft was in 2016 with this patent
 
If Yamaha is done with sleds they never would of filed this patent let alone filing this one I posted.there are 2 other new patents also
 
If Yamaha is done with sleds they never would of filed this patent let alone filing this one I posted.there are 2 other new patents also

Their flat out done with sleds. The patent is just covering their bases so they can share it if need be with Textron or whoever. Doesn't mean they are getting back into building their own machines.
 
Their flat out done with sleds. The patent is just covering their bases so they can share it if need be with Textron or whoever. Doesn't mean they are getting back into building their own machines.
They still build sleds In japan,fact!!!
 
Their flat out done with sleds. The patent is just covering their bases so they can share it if need be with Textron or whoever. Doesn't mean they are getting back into building their own machines.
I can see them being done with gas sleds in the performance arena but they are still building the VK and a couple Deltabox models in Japan. I can see them transitioning to Japan built electric sleds for the future.
 
They still build sleds In japan,fact!!!

Sure they do, the old 1980-1990 model two-stroke 540 fanner as I recall and an old Venture model from the mid 2000's. Nothing new, and nothing that even looks like a fun performance model, they have no R&D, nor do they have any engineering here in the states or Canada any longer. They appear to have no interest in developing snowmobiles any longer. All the new Yamaha built stuff has faded away other than the 998 engine that powers the Textron Arctic Cat chassis. If they came out with any new sleds of their own, it would shock the snowmobile community. They are now and have been, only a engine mfgr, since the tsunami. All Yamaha needed was a good chassis and suspension program, but they can't have that without R&D any longer. They have long ago pulled out of developing any new snowmobiles built by themselves. Why can't some people see that?

Yamaha built the best engines ever produced in two-stroke and four-stroke engines, and they were both geared output shaft driven four-cylinders. the 800 VMax4 and the Apex engines. They both were Swiss watch type engines. Dont get me wrong, all Yamaha stuff is built like that, but those engines have the most potential and make the most power per CC and also have the widest power band potential than any snowmobile engines made to date.
 


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