michaelbbbb
Newbie
I just picked up a used 2005 RS Rage in early December, and overall it has been great. I'm really enjoying this machine and starting to get it dialed in for my riding style...only complaint is belts blowing.
I bought it with 3000 miles on it, and previous owner had it maintained at dealer. This was his wife's sled. It came with original belt still on it.
Within 1st 200 miles of riding, the belt separated and lost pieces, so I put his spare on that came with the snowmobile (stored under hood since new, yamaha brand). Since then, put on another 400 miles or so.
Was out yesterday riding, and put on about 100 miles and halfway thru ride, totally shredded the belt again....
My question is:
Does having that replacement belt sitting under hood for 4+ years cause it to dry out and become subject to early failure?
Is this machine known for eating belts at high speeds?
(trails were perfect yesterday here, and we had some long stretches on lakes where it was WOT, but only for a few seconds at a time, then cruising at 65mph. I looked thru posts here, and did searchs...so checked alignment, and looked for grooves/glazing, and everything looks "OK" ...so any feedback would be appreciated.
I bought it with 3000 miles on it, and previous owner had it maintained at dealer. This was his wife's sled. It came with original belt still on it.
Within 1st 200 miles of riding, the belt separated and lost pieces, so I put his spare on that came with the snowmobile (stored under hood since new, yamaha brand). Since then, put on another 400 miles or so.
Was out yesterday riding, and put on about 100 miles and halfway thru ride, totally shredded the belt again....
My question is:
Does having that replacement belt sitting under hood for 4+ years cause it to dry out and become subject to early failure?
Is this machine known for eating belts at high speeds?
(trails were perfect yesterday here, and we had some long stretches on lakes where it was WOT, but only for a few seconds at a time, then cruising at 65mph. I looked thru posts here, and did searchs...so checked alignment, and looked for grooves/glazing, and everything looks "OK" ...so any feedback would be appreciated.
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Was the belt hot. When you do the long runs at 65mph the belt heats up fast you may want to add some vents to keep it cool. My apex rtx would do that when i race it so we add vents to keep it cool.
I would throw another new belt on it. You should be gtg. Could be an old age belt issue. Maybe I will store mine in the back instead of on top of the clutch. The yamaha belts fit all the machines and there is not major belt shredding issue.
michaelbbbb
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Thanks for the feedback guys....I'm betting on the "old age" thing right now as the cause. Everything else checks out. I just cleaned the mess up that the blown belt caused and re-checked alignment, etc....just can't find anything out of place here. My theory is that is just can't be a good thing for a belt to sit there on top of the clutch cover for almost 5 years, then get put into service. One of the questions above was about how hot the belt was....Not sure, since it was in 100 pieces by the time I looked at it! So not sure about the heat thing....I would be interested to hear if others have done anything about venting the clutch cover area......Does that involve just putting some slots in the aluminum cover that holds the spare belt?
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Seeing as we are now hearing about auto/truck tires going bad (dry rot) within 6 or so years, I wonder if this may be the case with belts. Who's to say when the belt was made? Is there a date code? If there is a date code, I'd like to be able to read it. Is it always the same manufacturer? Thoughts to ponder!!
cookster
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my daughters 05 was eating belts also (check your clutch faces for grooves worn into them ) there is good reading on this . changed clutch with good one and had eng aligned. no more prob`s and fuel milage back to where it should be .
Old belts are unpredictable....
At season start i put the spare on then buy a new one as a spare.
One thing you should do as well is to refresh your primary spring. If it has'nt get replaced yet then it sure outta shape by now. Good compressed air blow with scotchbright or alike on the clutches surfaces are also a must at least each season's start.
And yes, the 3 holers (2005 - 2006) will slowly grind a nice trace in the middle of the primay & flyweights.
Alingment also matter but does not change by itself unless secondary shims/spacers got forgotten on table during maintenance.
One more thing that might have happened too is that the previous owner had a custom clutching but put back original stuff (or he think he did) before selling. Check if spring/weight/cam are original specs.
At season start i put the spare on then buy a new one as a spare.
One thing you should do as well is to refresh your primary spring. If it has'nt get replaced yet then it sure outta shape by now. Good compressed air blow with scotchbright or alike on the clutches surfaces are also a must at least each season's start.
And yes, the 3 holers (2005 - 2006) will slowly grind a nice trace in the middle of the primay & flyweights.
Alingment also matter but does not change by itself unless secondary shims/spacers got forgotten on table during maintenance.
One more thing that might have happened too is that the previous owner had a custom clutching but put back original stuff (or he think he did) before selling. Check if spring/weight/cam are original specs.
salestim
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A friend has the same sled and also bought it used about a year ago. He kept throwing belts. Took it into service and there was some type of bearing problem. Have no idea what it is but if it keeps happening have someone check for it.
Jason.Benjamin
Veteran
Had a similar problem and have heard of others Rage owner having the same.
The secondary sheave had a warped which caused the Primaries to develop a grove / hump at the bottom.
I ate 4 belts before I could get a dealership to locate and fix the problem.
The secondary sheave had a warped which caused the Primaries to develop a grove / hump at the bottom.
I ate 4 belts before I could get a dealership to locate and fix the problem.
frano
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I bought an '05 Rage two years ago as a 3 year leftover. It now has 2,000 trouble free miles on the 5 year old belt and still going strong..
I've got 3000 miles on my original belt. 2005 rage
YamiRage07
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i also have a rage and was having problem blowing belts and took it into the dealer when i blew 2 in 15 miles and they said my clutches were out of alignment but then after that i blew the top half of another belt so i did some researching on here and guy posted that the rivets on his spare belt holder were hitting his belt sometimes. so i grinded those rivets down and havent had a problem in over 2 years so i would try that also.
