vanderrules
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- Joined
- Apr 7, 2020
- Messages
- 17
- Location
- North Bay, Ontario
- Country
- Canada
- Snowmobile
- 2007 Phazer FX (sold), 2008 Phazer GT(long tracked)
I ended up selling my 07 FX as the girlfriend didn't want to snowmobile anymore. This sled has never given me any issues. The gentleman I sold it to brought it back to me the next day with the following snag:
-Would rev to 2800 - 3200 RPM, then the engine would stumble and headlight/taillight would cut out when it stumbled. Engine would drop back down to idle and run fine, but kept hitting a wall between 2800-3200 RPM when accelerating. Problem got worse the warmer the sled got. Problem would not throw a code.
So I am sharing this as it was a real head scratcher.
-First changed the fuel out and plugs. Problem remained.
-Looked into TORS system, even bypassed it. Problem remained.
-TPS was checked and within spec. Problem remained.
-Next swapped out the fuel pump thinking lack of pressure. Problem remained.
-Next swapped coils thinking they were breaking down under heat. Problem remained.
-Next swapped injectors and fuel pressure regulator. Problem remained.
-Next swapped out the ECU. Problem remained.
-Next went diving into the wiring harness. Everything checked out fine and problem remained.
Keep in mind, this snag did not throw a code the entire time.
So now I am really scratching my head/drinking heavily at this point.
I pulled off the relay bracket and swapped out the reverse relays thinking the reverse system might be activating a governor of some sort. Problem remained.
With the relay bracket off, and me having a cold beer, I stared at the only RED upgraded solid state relay I put on the sled three years ago when i bought it. The RED relay I intentionally put on the EFI circuit as a preventative measure 3 years ago so it would never give me a problem. Bingo! My should never fail super expensive solid state relay was breaking down internally when warmed up and causing this gremlin. The regular electro/mechanical relay would have failed in the off position and I would have looked there first.
I swapped the RED relay with old faithful BLACK and the problem went away immediately.
-Would rev to 2800 - 3200 RPM, then the engine would stumble and headlight/taillight would cut out when it stumbled. Engine would drop back down to idle and run fine, but kept hitting a wall between 2800-3200 RPM when accelerating. Problem got worse the warmer the sled got. Problem would not throw a code.
So I am sharing this as it was a real head scratcher.
-First changed the fuel out and plugs. Problem remained.
-Looked into TORS system, even bypassed it. Problem remained.
-TPS was checked and within spec. Problem remained.
-Next swapped out the fuel pump thinking lack of pressure. Problem remained.
-Next swapped coils thinking they were breaking down under heat. Problem remained.
-Next swapped injectors and fuel pressure regulator. Problem remained.
-Next swapped out the ECU. Problem remained.
-Next went diving into the wiring harness. Everything checked out fine and problem remained.
Keep in mind, this snag did not throw a code the entire time.
So now I am really scratching my head/drinking heavily at this point.
I pulled off the relay bracket and swapped out the reverse relays thinking the reverse system might be activating a governor of some sort. Problem remained.
With the relay bracket off, and me having a cold beer, I stared at the only RED upgraded solid state relay I put on the sled three years ago when i bought it. The RED relay I intentionally put on the EFI circuit as a preventative measure 3 years ago so it would never give me a problem. Bingo! My should never fail super expensive solid state relay was breaking down internally when warmed up and causing this gremlin. The regular electro/mechanical relay would have failed in the off position and I would have looked there first.
I swapped the RED relay with old faithful BLACK and the problem went away immediately.
Mooseman
I'm not all knowing. Post your question in forum.
- Joined
- Nov 3, 2009
- Messages
- 3,957
- Location
- Greely, Ontario
- Country
- Canada
- Snowmobile
- '07 Venture MP (gone)
'07 Phazer FX (gone)
'09 Phazer GT (gone)
'10 RS Venture GT (My current ride)
'10 Nytro FX (son's)
- LOCATION
- Greely, ON Canada
That's good to know. That red electronic relay was developed specifically for the fuel pump, a purely electrical mechanical device. They might not like working with electronic systems or vice-versa.