Just saying single ply is not a dirty word anymore and in some ways better. Back in the days of early Apex i had 2 rip saws delaminate at high speed what a mess!


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I think I am going to try the 1.6 ice cobra on my 190hp Viper. I am not a top end nut. I am also considering having it cut to 14 inches to help the 137 skid turn a bit better in the tight stuff. I want that traction in the loose snow!!
Well I have ridden several turbo LTX's with 1.6 ice cobras and I can tell you that you do not have to9 cut the track down! You will have more bite and may want more carbide to keep the front end in check but you will not notice any more difficulty in tight twisties with that track.
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I'll be ordering the Ice Cobra for my LTX.
That's pretty damn good endorsement of the ice cobra Yamadog. Now what are your thoughts on the speed loss.......fact or perception?
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My STOCK 2016 LTX-LE with a Venom clutch kit pulled the 1.6 Ice Cobra to 104 in the right conditions.


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My STOCK 2016 LTX-LE with a Venom clutch kit pulled the 1.6 Ice Cobra to 104 in the right conditions.
is that dream meter...that seems pretty slow...wondering what a turbo 190 viper would do with it...my 2016 zr9000 would easily hit 125 before I lost the marbles/room to keep going..
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I think that the suggestion is that 104 for a stock Viper (Arctic Cat ZR-7000 equivalent) is very good for a track that supposedly robs top end speed.


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For what its worth I run a 1 inch pre-studded ice tech track on my 144 apex XTX I love the track. I went with the 1 inch because of the weight savings in the track are almost as much as the added for the studs in hopes I would maintain more top speed. the track has seen 132 on the dream meter more than once I have almost 8000 miles on the track and the last 1500 have been with the super charger. I have never been accused of being nice to equipment in fact I have been banned from using golf carts at the local course for life. my track has the outer edge of the outer most lugs worn down on a slight angle and has lost 5 of the studs that fall in that area and is the only wear it has from hard running thru the corners. I have every intention of running the track for the hopefully 2000 plus miles I will get on the sled this season. with the pre-stud it is almost 1.25 inch and has never let me down off trail the only stucks I have had are due to rider error and a 1.75 track would have been stuck on those 3 occasions too. when I wear this track out I will get another one the same. the little extra traction is great on icy conditions but allows my to slid the back end around the corners still. All that said I don't do much if any drag racing on bare ice but will line up on a snow covered lake from time to time and I do have to have some control on the fun flipper to not bounce off the rev limiter and with in the first 50 feet I am wide open and pulling away from everyone I have lined up with. Again for what its worth different sled but pre stud is in my opinion the way to go. Now a friend put the 1.6 pre stud on his 800RR and the lugs would bend over and do almost nothing for traction as the studs were not hitting the ground so he put traditional studs in too.
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THANK YOU, to the person who understands. As far as the other .... What did you expect for 135 HP vs. 180 HPI think that the suggestion is that 104 for a stock Viper (Arctic Cat ZR-7000 equivalent) is very good for a track that supposedly robs top end speed.


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For what its worth I run a 1 inch pre-studded ice tech track on my 144 apex XTX I love the track. I went with the 1 inch because of the weight savings in the track are almost as much as the added for the studs in hopes I would maintain more top speed. the track has seen 132 on the dream meter more than once I have almost 8000 miles on the track and the last 1500 have been with the super charger. I have never been accused of being nice to equipment in fact I have been banned from using golf carts at the local course for life. my track has the outer edge of the outer most lugs worn down on a slight angle and has lost 5 of the studs that fall in that area and is the only wear it has from hard running thru the corners. I have every intention of running the track for the hopefully 2000 plus miles I will get on the sled this season. with the pre-stud it is almost 1.25 inch and has never let me down off trail the only stucks I have had are due to rider error and a 1.75 track would have been stuck on those 3 occasions too. when I wear this track out I will get another one the same. the little extra traction is great on icy conditions but allows my to slid the back end around the corners still. All that said I don't do much if any drag racing on bare ice but will line up on a snow covered lake from time to time and I do have to have some control on the fun flipper to not bounce off the rev limiter and with in the first 50 feet I am wide open and pulling away from everyone I have lined up with. Again for what its worth different sled but pre stud is in my opinion the way to go. Now a friend put the 1.6 pre stud on his 800RR and the lugs would bend over and do almost nothing for traction as the studs were not hitting the ground so he put traditional studs in too.
thor452's posting above is a classic example of what makes TY great. An unbiased example of what works for him with his sled set up for his riding style and conditions.
I've always thought that choosing a track for you sled is like choosing a wife or girlfriend.
I now have a new hero after reading his comment that I highlighted above regarding golf carts.
There has to be a pretty good story about his lifetime ban from his local golf course.

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If someone puts a Yamaha motor in a golf cart, Mr. Sled can open a whole new category. Might be a good summer subject. Personally i've never been on a golf course legally, because i believe if i have time to golf, I'D GO RIDING! I did roll one once. Wish i had PRE-STUDDED tires that day...

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VX1R backs up what i said. Figure out where & how you ride, shop, ask questions & decide. BTW: studding a pre-studded track defeats the whole purpose of the track in the first place...
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Well I started with a company golf outing with an open bar tab in 90+ degree heat. If you remember the old MTN DEW commercial it was similar to that. When the owner of the course caught us out jumping the sand traps he took our key away well we found a spare set in another cart and the key worked in ours and well as stable as a golf cart is you can still roll them. So long story short we don't golf there anymore lol.thor452's posting above is a classic example of what makes TY great. An unbiased example of what works for him with his sled set up for his riding style and conditions.
I've always thought that choosing a track for you sled is like choosing a wife or girlfriend.
I now have a new hero after reading his comment that I highlighted above regarding golf carts.
There has to be a pretty good story about his lifetime ban from his local golf course.
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