2006 Sled Of The Year.

[SledFreak]

I'm kind of thinking maybe I should sell mine off my GT and buy a set of Ohlins. But then I will have to pay to get it re-sprung and valved for the GT and if they are even the same ride height? Length of shock? Fusk I am not happy about this, If I would have known that I would not have bought the GT. I would of bought the ER or the RTX, but now thinking about it, I would of bought the ER. I don't believe the RTX would handle as good in tight corners witout the springs on the shocks. There is probably more body roll to it then the ER or the GT. Anybody have some insight.

 

[Tork]

The Soqi (I think that is how it is spelled) shocks are probably going to be just fine. Yamaha fully owns that company I believe ,and they also own part of Ohlins. Soqi is the biggest supplier to Y on the motorcycle side from what I know and you dont really hear of any problems with them.

 

[jimmie d]

I am sure most guys would have paid the $200 extra for the Ohlins up front.

Jim

 

[rightarm]

Tork the correct spelling is SOQI your're right on,and geees would you guy's quit your crying you sound like a bunch of women who just broke a nail,these shock's are quality no need to go off the deep end .And if Yamaha did put all the top quality equipment on there sled's I'am sure someone would start to whine about the price shortly there after.

 

[sxmatt]

I have been up in the air about changing the front shocks on my attak. I have said before I can't understand why they didn't put FLOATS on the front of the attak since it was classified as a ROUGH trail sled and they could of saved some weight. After visiting my dealer today I don't think I will put FLOATS on my attak because of the following reason----My dealer is a CAT and YAMAHA dealer and sitting on the showroom floor was a bunch of CAT F series sno-pro sled with FLOATS on them. I wanted to compare how they felt compared to the shocks on the ATTAK. When I pushed down on the front of the sled the sled didn't move. I knelt on the front with my knee and bounced up and down on the front until it began to move. There was soooo much initial STICTION it was very difficult to move. I tried this on 2 other sled and the same thing. Once I got the shock to compress it didn't seem to move as freely as the ATTAK coil/spring setup. An interesting observation. There was no RTX there to compare so maybe it was just the CAT FLOATs and not the YAMI FLOATS.

Thanks
Matt

 

[rightarm]

sxmatt don't compare the two Yami and Ac different sled weight/weight bias etc, means different valving internally hence the difference in amount of preassure needed to get it moving.I have Fox float shock's on my mountain bike and they work amazing!

 

[LJ 452]

I have been up in the air about changing the front shocks on my attak. I have said before I can't understand why they didn't put FLOATS on the front of the attak since it was classified as a ROUGH trail sled and they could of saved some weight. After visiting my dealer today I don't think I will put FLOATS on my attak because of the following reason----My dealer is a CAT and YAMAHA dealer and sitting on the showroom floor was a bunch of CAT F series sno-pro sled with FLOATS on them. I wanted to compare how they felt compared to the shocks on the ATTAK. When I pushed down on the front of the sled the sled didn't move. I knelt on the front with my knee and bounced up and down on the front until it began to move. There was soooo much initial STICTION it was very difficult to move. I tried this on 2 other sled and the same thing. Once I got the shock to compress it didn't seem to move as freely as the ATTAK coil/spring setup. An interesting observation. There was no RTX there to compare so maybe it was just the CAT FLOATs and not the YAMI FLOATS.

Thanks
Matt

Before coming to any conclusion about the stiction or stiffness of the fox float. Did you check to see what pressures the shocks were set to. I to am concerned about the float shocks but plan to spend a great deal of time testing and documenting the results so that I can easily change to the conditions. For all you know the 16 year old kid who assembled the sled jacked 150+ psi into the shock. (something I will be checking before I leave with the sled.) All we can do is wait and see. It's part of getting anything the first year it's released.

 

[Mighty]

I said this before but it appears it needs to be said again; the Yamaha engineers I spoke with all to a man prefered the Fox Floats. One of them told me that in thousands of miles of testing they had zero failures. You know damn well they rode the piss out of them pushing them to the limit. I wouldn't be concerned :ORC

 

[y_guy]

I heard the same thing as Mighty. The Yam guys at the show said, "these are not your cat fox floats"

 

[Viper34]

said this before but it appears it needs to be said again; the Yamaha engineers I spoke with all to a man prefered the Fox Floats. One of them told me that in thousands of miles of testing they had zero failures. You know damn well they rode the piss out of them pushing them to the limit. I wouldn't be concerned

The quality requirements for a vendor to become a Yamaha supplier are higher then that of Cat and Pol...Yamaha has specific regect rate/ppm requirements which imrpove the overal quality of its vendor, Cat and Pol has and will benefit fom this, as they all share certain vendors as suppliers.

 

[Bakemono]

Last winter I talked to some of the Yamaha reps and they informed me that the GYT-Rs are better than the Floats. According to them, the GYT-Rs resist fading better than the Floats because they are remote reservoir.
Cap'n

 

[SledFreak]

I'm kind of thinking maybe I should sell mine off my GT and buy a set of Ohlins. But then I will have to pay to get it re-sprung and valved for the GT and if they are even the same ride height? Length of shock? Fusk I am not happy about this, If I would have known that I would not have bought the GT. I would of bought the ER or the RTX, but now thinking about it, I would of bought the ER. I don't believe the RTX would handle as good in tight corners witout the springs on the shocks. There is probably more body roll to it then the ER or the GT. Anybody have some insight.

Ok, I think I calmed down now, I hope these are good shocks and I won't be rebuilding them in 200 miles and not every 1000, like junk fox. The HPG's on my REV would last 3000 miles before re-building. If they last at least that, then I will be happy. I just realize how good the ohlins are and I wanted them on my new GT.

 

[Tork]

Tork the correct spelling is SOQI your're right on,and geees would you guy's quit your crying you sound like a bunch of women who just broke a nail,these shock's are quality no need to go off the deep end .And if Yamaha did put all the top quality equipment on there sled's I'am sure someone would start to whine about the price shortly there after.

The driving factor about this is Ohlins barely had the capacity to eek out the quantity needed for the single shock on the GT skid. If they put them on the GT all around production would have been cut to probably 1/3 leaving many guys who wanted GT's crying the blues. The Soqi shocks will be fine, it could even be possible they are better than Ohlins fronts would have been. We will find out in a few months.

And Mighty's info on the Floats is right on. Viper 34 if you dont know does a lot of the testing for Yamaha. Thousands of miles most of the year because they send him out to what ever part of the planet happens to have snow. Last spring I got 3 PM's from him and he made a number of posts. To sum it all up with his take on the Fox Floats

!. Thousands of miles no failures
2. Best shock to resist bottoming
3. His favorite shock out of 4 choices

 

[rightarm]

And breathe!they'll be fine!

 

[sxmatt]

RIGHTARM, I may not have been clear in my post, I could not compress the shock AT ALL by first pushing on it with my hands and then knelling on the front of the sled bouncing up and down. There was some reason why they would not compress initially, once they started to move it was easy to compress and unload and then compress ETC. Mayby Viper 34 could give us an explanation since he has a lot of experience on the FLOATS. Also you can't compare a mountain bike shock to those on the sleds either.

Matt