2006 Vector GT ski lift in corners

[heybuddy]

Just started riding my 06 Vector GT and it seems to have a lot of inside ski lift in the corners compared to my old Viper. Does anyone know if putting the front springs tighter will help? Any other suggestions?

 

[Silverbullet]

You are going to see more ski lift compared to the Viper....If you do a search there is a ton of opinions and ideas on how to minumise it

 

[Groomerdriver]

last yrs Vector needed more spring (stock too light even a full tight IMO) and possibly a heavier sway bar. If 'o6's have same rate spring, they'll need it too.

I tell ya, Yami needs to hire some Poo/Doo suspension people to get these sled better out of the box!

 

[Oak Hill]

Heybuddy - look at posts in the Apex section for Mono set up. It will be different than last years Vector (different suspension). Its all in set-up.

 

[Groomerdriver]

Heybuddy - look at posts in the Apex section for Mono set up. It will be different than last years Vector (different suspension). Its all in set-up.

The FRONT end is that much different?

 

[aVenture]

Sorry to polute your Vector thread with my Venture things (so i will spare you of what i have done stock for the sky lift on mine) but..... for the heavier sway bar its probably the same... i cranked mine from 11mm to 13mm last week, then paid myself a 250km ride where 150 of it was behind the groomer(well... the first trace OK) Temp was -20C. Results = i have a 11mm bar for sale. It is really a blast for me... Warning..it does not make your ride smoother (if this is what you want) but really prevent body roll in the corner(well.. higher the limit) and make cornering more predictable. Now.... founded myself to enter corners faster, ski lift as a result but i can control better how high it get & no surprise.

I have not messed yet with any other things so to feel what changed first but i will have to do some to ease up on the vibe & kick fed back to the steering.

... recommended

 

[NY_Nytro]

Heybuddy - look at posts in the Apex section for Mono set up. It will be different than last years Vector (different suspension). Its all in set-up.

The FRONT end is that much different?

The front is no different but the rear suspension has alot to do with ski lift. Inside ski lift can't normally be fixed by adjusting the front alone.

 

[Groomerdriver]

Heybuddy - look at posts in the Apex section for Mono set up. It will be different than last years Vector (different suspension). Its all in set-up.

The FRONT end is that much different?

The front is no different but the rear suspension has alot to do with ski lift. Inside ski lift can't normally be fixed by adjusting the front alone.

IMO - the front end setup/adjustments do more to control ski lift than the rear. Some of it also depends on where you are on the throttle. What I know would help my Vector (ski lift isn't really an issue with me) is a higher rate spring coupled with softer shock valving. This will give me firmer cornering and an improved front end ride. Don't know what mm my sway bar is but if I could go heavier, I would and are of the opinion that the combo of a higher rate spring/bigger bar/softer shock and subsequent adjusting should give you the best of all the world (ride and cornering). But then again, you shouldn't have to do all of htis to a sled...it should come out of the factory better calibrated, which my Vector is not.

 

[x2thez]

Ski lift could be attributed to having too much weight transfer, thus you get on the throttle and it pulls the skis off the ground, this is the problem that I am having, so I am gonna back off the transfer ever so slighty just because i dont want to lose on the holeshot...

 

[NY_Nytro]

Ski lift could be attributed to having too much weight transfer, thus you get on the throttle and it pulls the skis off the ground, this is the problem that I am having, so I am gonna back off the transfer ever so slighty just because i dont want to lose on the holeshot...

Same thing I noticed. Too much transfer at stock settings causing the skis to have near zero pressure unless I'm on the brake.

Last year I monkeyed with the limiter strap and center preload and really messed things up. Instead of zero ski pressure I had too much. Set everything back to stock and I'm starting to SMALL adjustments, ONE at a time so I don't booger everything again.

 

[Oak Hill]

Ski lift has very little to do with the front suspension. As mentioned in an earlier post it is the rear suspension that will make the change. Wieght transfer causes ski lift. Less transfer, less ski lift.

 

[Groomerdriver]

why do I even bother.......

 

[twomorestrokes]

I agree that it is mainly the rear suspension that affects ski lift. Transfer setting and strap setting mainly. What I did this season that really seemed to reduce ski lift was tighten the strap one hole from stock, back off on the transfer until three lines are showing, (I like full transfer but it's a fact that this produces ski lift) loosen the middle shock spring preload 1/4" (to work with the tighter strap) and actually backed off the front shock spring preload 1/4" as well. Of course this is on a ProActive suspension, not the Mono.

I didn't just guess at these adjustments, it is what Bruce recommends when installing Pioneer's larger sway bars to get more cornering stability. I can't afford a bar until after the holidays, but thought I'd try the no cost adjustments and ski lift has diminished. Should be MUCH better when I get around to putting a 12 mm bar on it.

 

[PJVMAX]

I agree that it is mainly the rear suspension that affects ski lift. Transfer setting and strap setting mainly. What I did this season that really seemed to reduce ski lift was tighten the strap one hole from stock, back off on the transfer until three lines are showing, (I like full transfer but it's a fact that this produces ski lift) loosen the middle shock spring preload 1/4" (to work with the tighter strap) and actually backed off the front shock spring preload 1/4" as well. Of course this is on a ProActive suspension, not the Mono.

I didn't just guess at these adjustments, it is what Bruce recommends when installing Pioneer's larger sway bars to get more cornering stability. I can't afford a bar until after the holidays, but thought I'd try the no cost adjustments and ski lift has diminished. Should be MUCH better when I get around to putting a 12 mm bar on it.

Are these spring settings 1/4" softer from the stock setting (middle of range) or from where your sled was set from the dealer setup? All spring settings on my sled were full soft from the dealer. What is your weight?

 

[Vectory]

I do agree with Twomorestrokes. Last year I just did exactly what he did. It is almost day and night after those little adjustments. For the front shock spring preload what I was told is to lift up the front end(skis not touching the ground) and loosen it until the spring has no tension on it then tight it back until it touch plus one full turn. From there you can do small adjustment at the time. Always remember what you did if you want to put it back the same way it was before if not you have to restart from the manufacture set up.
You will always have a bit ski lift but it is predictable in corner and eventually you will adapt after awhile. If I can follow a MXZ 800 right in his taillight it's already a great improvement. Enjoy your season and I'm sure you will love this machine.