2011 Apex...standard...xtx or Se....owners only poll

[titanrcr]

Read some more steve.... I have seen new ones running already in access of 115-118mph with no more then 250miles and that was not on ice... Apparently the speedos are bang on on the new Apex... How do you your etec is only off by 5mph? Everything I have read or heard, they are more like 8-9mph out.... You verified by GPS?

I should also add that both the Yami dealer and the factory guy told me that the Apex is running 118 mph. I didn't ask if that was speedo or gps. Factory Yamaha guy also told me that the sled should pickup about 17 HP in about 1500 Miles? Sounds like alot to me but if true should this a 120+ MPH sled with proper clutching.

 

[SledFreak]

Read some more steve.... I have seen new ones running already in access of 115-118mph with no more then 250miles and that was not on ice... Apparently the speedos are bang on on the new Apex... How do you your etec is only off by 5mph? Everything I have read or heard, they are more like 8-9mph out.... You verified by GPS?

I should also add that both the Yami dealer and the factory guy told me that the Apex is running 118 mph. I didn't ask if that was speedo or gps. Factory Yamaha guy also told me that the sled should pickup about 17 HP in about 1500 Miles? Sounds like alot to me but if true should this a 120+ MPH sled with proper clutching.

Maybe 7... But it really takes about 2500-3000 to see the true potential of that motor...

 

[titanrcr]

Maybe 7... But it really takes about 2500-3000 to see the true potential of that motor...[/quote]

Yea well he may have said 2500mi, not sure but 7hp does seem more realistic.

 

[ITHAPPENS]

920 KMS so far just starting to dial it in. Factory set up first time out, lifted a ski, pushed and darted badly. Lifted limiter strap 2 holes and some air out of the front floats and started cornering like my 2006. Now putting Snowtrackers to take care of darting and pushing so next time out will have more feedback. After break in (500kms) walked away from my buddies 2010 GT and 2008 XP up to 177kph but ran out of road(hardpack 2-3" of fluff) Expecting more top end when loosened up but very happy with the power. Power Steering seems to help but have to try my buddies back to back with same carbides to give a better report. First oil/filter and all looks ok, slides 50% worn. Less bottoming out than my 2006 but shock was toast on it.

 

[**sj**]

SPEEDO

Read some more steve.... I have seen new ones running already in access of 115-118mph with no more then 250miles and that was not on ice... Apparently the speedos are bang on on the new Apex... How do you your etec is only off by 5mph? Everything I have read or heard, they are more like 8-9mph out.... You verified by GPS?

others on dootalk have gps'd avg 5-7 I guess...but who knows...

 

[SledFreak]

Re: SPEEDO

Read some more steve.... I have seen new ones running already in access of 115-118mph with no more then 250miles and that was not on ice... Apparently the speedos are bang on on the new Apex... This was according to Knapp.. How do you know your etec is only off by 5mph? Everything I have read or heard, they are more like 8-9mph out.... You verified by GPS?

others on dootalk have gps'd avg 5-7 I guess...but who knows...

The ones I have read on doo-talk is more like the 7+.... In fact one of the mags just came out and said they were comparing speedos to GPS speeds and the DOO was off by atleast 7... Plus the higher you get the worse it is... Same as the old Yamahas....

 

[**sj**]

920 KMS so far just starting to dial it in. Factory set up first time out, lifted a ski, pushed and darted badly. Lifted limiter strap 2 holes and some air out of the front floats and started cornering like my 2006. Now putting Snowtrackers to take care of darting and pushing so next time out will have more feedback. After break in (500kms) walked away from my buddies 2010 GT and 2008 XP up to 177kph but ran out of road(hardpack 2-3" of fluff) Expecting more top end when loosened up but very happy with the power. Power Steering seems to help but have to try my buddies back to back with same carbides to give a better report. First oil/filter and all looks ok, slides 50% worn. Less bottoming out than my 2006 but shock was toast on it.

dont quite understand...are you saying you actually bottomed the se's megashock????? Im surprised if thats the case I thought that was the shocks hallmark no bottoming????

 

[ITHAPPENS]

Dropped the air in the rear shock quite a bit until just bottoming on bigger hits. 145PSI, then raised back up to 150 and bottom only on biggest hits. Still playing with the pressures as there is almost no info on them still. Trying to keep the ride height as low as possible to keep ski lift in check. :exc:

 

[**sj**]

Dropped the air in the rear shock quite a bit until just bottoming on bigger hits. 145PSI, then raised back up to 150 and bottom only on biggest hits. Still playing with the pressures as there is almost no info on them still. Trying to keep the ride height as low as possible to keep ski lift in check. :exc:

ah...try controlling ski lift by taking all the transfer out...then you wont bottom as easily even with less air pressure and lower ride height? at least that was my way to mono plushness

 

[SledFreak]

Dropped the air in the rear shock quite a bit until just bottoming on bigger hits. 145PSI, then raised back up to 150 and bottom only on biggest hits. Still playing with the pressures as there is almost no info on them still. Trying to keep the ride height as low as possible to keep ski lift in check. :exc:

ah...try controlling ski lift by taking all the transfer out...then you wont bottom as easily even with less air pressure and lower ride height? at least that was my way to mono plushness

No that is not what he saying Steve... I believe he is saying, he is trying to lower the sled as much as possible which will help in reducing ski lift... Less body roll.... He never said anything about transfer.... He is just trying to lower the sled to get it to rail... By trying to get it rotate through the center with min ski lift... Don;t confuse transfer for what he is doing...

 

[yamahahaapex]

920 KMS so far just starting to dial it in. Factory set up first time out, lifted a ski, pushed and darted badly. Lifted limiter strap 2 holes and some air out of the front floats and started cornering like my 2006. Now putting Snowtrackers to take care of darting and pushing so next time out will have more feedback. After break in (500kms) walked away from my buddies 2010 GT and 2008 XP up to 177kph but ran out of road(hardpack 2-3" of fluff) Expecting more top end when loosened up but very happy with the power. Power Steering seems to help but have to try my buddies back to back with same carbides to give a better report. First oil/filter and all looks ok, slides 50% worn. Less bottoming out than my 2006 but shock was toast on it.

What RPMs are you seeing in hole shot and on your top end?

 

[sx7001]

920 KMS so far just starting to dial it in. Factory set up first time out, lifted a ski, pushed and darted badly. Lifted limiter strap 2 holes and some air out of the front floats and started cornering like my 2006. Now putting Snowtrackers to take care of darting and pushing so next time out will have more feedback. After break in (500kms) walked away from my buddies 2010 GT and 2008 XP up to 177kph but ran out of road(hardpack 2-3" of fluff) Expecting more top end when loosened up but very happy with the power. Power Steering seems to help but have to try my buddies back to back with same carbides to give a better report. First oil/filter and all looks ok, slides 50% worn. Less bottoming out than my 2006 but shock was toast on it.

dont quite understand...are you saying you actually bottomed the se's megashock????? Im surprised if thats the case I thought that was the shocks hallmark no bottoming????

Yamaha never said the Mega Float would not bottom out. This is a quote from the 2011 brochure. " they typically provide improved anti-bottoming over there coil-spring cousins"

 

[**sj**]

fyi what I am saying is ....when you reduce transfer (even though thats not what your intending to adjust...you would be able to run less air and have greater bottoming resistance...at least that was how it worked with my coil spring mono vs the air spring mega

 

[sx7001]

fyi what I am saying is ....when you reduce transfer (even though thats not what your intending to adjust...you would be able to run less air and have greater bottoming resistance...at least that was how it worked with my coil spring mono vs the air spring mega

sj, you are correct, reducing weight transfer will help with bottoming (using the transfer rod). The operating range of the Mega Float is 140psi-225psi. You need to find a spot in the range that suits your needs or adjust the air pressure as conditions change. If it bottoms out to often go up in 5 psi increments. Manual states, "Make sure that there is no load on the shock absorber and that it is fully extended before making any air pressure adjustments"

 

[SledFreak]

fyi what I am saying is ....when you reduce transfer (even though thats not what your intending to adjust...you would be able to run less air and have greater bottoming resistance...at least that was how it worked with my coil spring mono vs the air spring mega

sj, you are correct, reducing weight transfer will help with bottoming (using the transfer rod). The operating range of the Mega Float is 140psi-225psi. You need to find a spot in the range that suits your needs or adjust the air pressure as conditions change. If it bottoms out to often go up in 5 psi increments. Manual states, "Make sure that there is no load on the shock absorber and that it is fully extended before making any air pressure adjustments"

I agree... but unless you are set at max? which I doudbt he is... I found the mid to the the best position, which is the factory setting... Setting transfer to min, just makes the sled pull like a dog... He is doing the right thing, by trying to reduce ride height, which will reduce body roll and reduce ski lift... Once he gets that established, then you want to play with limiter and transfer rod...