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2023 Yamaha Snowmobile line up


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I saw this on the Cat forum....a lot of unhappy Cat fans.
Nothing new again
 
Cat and Yamaha.Perfect couple,both asleep at the wheel.You would think that together they would split cost and at least make an effort but nope.This partnership has been going on long enough with very little results,it's just sad now.
 
It’s funny how Yamaha was the company that wasn‘t updating their sleds and making changes guys were requesting and complaining about on the forums from around ‘10-’13. Then Yamaha partners with Cat and comes out with the Viper in ‘14…. and then back to no progression or innovation. The Sidewinder came out in what, ‘17? Cat already had the 1100T so the concept wasn’t new to them. It’s like Yamaha’s lack of yearly updates and innovation has taken over Cat and they now both suck equally.
 
Totally expected considering the turmoil we are experiencing
I have to respectfully disagree. Doo and Poo both brought new things to the table for 2023 even with all the struggles of the last couple years. I keep waiting for something new and creative from Yam but they apparently can't even get their sh%t together to provide a new updated display.
 
I see the new Thundercat has a slide action rear suspension. Whoa! What will they think of next? Heated hand grips?
 
I see the new Thundercat has a slide action rear suspension. Whoa! What will they think of next? Heated hand grips?
Whoa, whoa, whoa…. You can’t release advanced tech like that all in one year. It has to come out in stages, right side hotgrip in ‘24 and then left side in ‘25.
 
I was extremely impressed with Polaris sleds for 23’. 9R, boosted 850 trail sled and a twin 998cc four stroke. Not a bad lineup for tough times.

Don’t get me wrong, nothing beats a Yamaha engine and I absolutely love my viper. I think that’s why most of us here buy their sleds is because of the engine. The cat chassis is pretty good also. But they both need to come out with some new offerings.
 
I am excited about the riot. I know its an xtx le in cat colors but none the less Im happy to see it. I am also fine with the fact there doesnt seem to be much new. We are at a point of ridiculously high costs and struggles. Manufacturing and supply issues everywhere. Id rather not be a test pilot for new technology/builds at this point and Im perfectly happy with the current offerings. The winder/cat is one of the best riding, best handling, best looking and most powerful snowmobiles on snow. With a few minor aftermarket fixes upon delivery I have racked over 3000 miles on my 22 model already and 6500+miles on my 2020 with zero issues or problems. Its nice to see manufacturers stepping up their game every year and I can understand people being frustrated that their brand of choice isnt doing much to keep up but their are tons of new options from other manufacturers. One should maybe explore that route if the latest and greatest is of much importance and your favorite manufacturer isnt meeting your standards. That would be the easiest thing to do I would think, rather than living in complete disappointment every day.
 
I have 11,300kms on my 2018 viper, has been awesome so far. Comfort, handling and reliability has been excellent. Always good to see new offerings, it drives competition. Hopefully Yamaha & cat have something good to offer. They’re overdue imo.
 
I am excited about the riot. I know its an xtx le in cat colors but none the less Im happy to see it. I am also fine with the fact there doesnt seem to be much new. We are at a point of ridiculously high costs and struggles. Manufacturing and supply issues everywhere. Id rather not be a test pilot for new technology/builds at this point and Im perfectly happy with the current offerings. The winder/cat is one of the best riding, best handling, best looking and most powerful snowmobiles on snow. With a few minor aftermarket fixes upon delivery I have racked over 3000 miles on my 22 model already and 6500+miles on my 2020 with zero issues or problems. Its nice to see manufacturers stepping up their game every year and I can understand people being frustrated that their brand of choice isnt doing much to keep up but their are tons of new options from other manufacturers. One should maybe explore that route if the latest and greatest is of much importance and your favorite manufacturer isnt meeting your standards. That would be the easiest thing to do I would think, rather than living in complete disappointment every day.
Very well said. I don't see a lot wrong with the current chassis. I would go as far as saying it has the best front end out there. Yes, it does need some tweaking from factory, but when setup correctly it is absolutely planted and rails. The skid isn't as plush as the Doo or Poo, but it isn't far behind and you aren't sitting over or in front of the shaft. My biggest complaint is I wish the seat were a bit taller. I really don't see a need for a computer monitor for a gauge cluster. Is a GPS nice, absolutely. I like mine up higher on the RAM mount where I can actually see it while riding so I'll keep using mine. For those who keep score there have been updates to the chassis. Different shock packages, new front end geometry, new plastic designs, ECU upgrades and more were added. The only difference is each time they changed something they didn't add a new name. The current chassis, if using other OEMs convention, could easily be call Gen 3 or some quirky other name. The only thing that hasn't changed is the gauge and last I looked at my gauge it told me what it should. I will happily plug my GPS in when I head out and keep the price down. I will not go into debt for a sled and let's face it 95% of the price increase in most new sleds is a result of electronics and not performance.
 


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