Amsnow real world shootout

[vmxrdr]

The doo turbo holds less fuel too which makes chassis weight even closer, they are better on fuel though so it’s kind of a mute point.
You are better to have fuel in your tank in middle of sled not in a linq tank out back though, riding a g4 renegade fast with the big linq tank full of gas is very noticeabley different than the bare sled.

 

[sideshowBob]

The 850 Doo was given a bit of a Raw deal in that shootout as it was in the Back Country Model. I ride with a group that includes 2 850 Back Countries and an 850 Renegade...the Renegade easily puts the Back Countries to shame.

 

[DoktorC]

Strange they used the 850 Backcountry and not a TNT or whatever one has a normal track/gearing combo.

There's no question the 1" track is going to hurt the SRX down low but once you get rolling that thing is GONE...

 

[JPS]

I don't know what the track conditions were, but I think 0-30mph is also where the extra weight will show up and hinder times compared to the lighter sleds.
A 1.25-1.6 would probably give slightly better 0-30, but at what expense to the other end.
This sled put a serious beating on the other sleds from 30mph on.
My own experience is that the deeper lug only helps slightly, what's really needed is a lot of picks.

I will tell you what the traction conditions were. I was there at the shoot out the Polaris and Ski doo sleds were all within the first 6 or 7 runs for the day and the track was in very good condition but was getting beat up fast!!!!! they put down over 20 runs with other 600 machines between the Poo and Doo big gun runs before the SRX was brought out. at that point the start area was trashed!!!! what a way to do it?? if the first 3 runs were the best DOO and the best POO followed by the SRX the beating would have been much worse!!!! It was AM Snowmobiler gig so i guess they did not want the others to look worse than they did.

 

[Fast]

Less than two tenths in 660 is hardly a hurting! All things being equal thats less than 20 HP difference at 660. In other words if said sled needed to pick up about a tenth and a half at 660, they would need to add about 15 HP to get there.

You need traction, without it a little 600 stock drag sled will kill any big bad trail sleds to 660. For reference I had stock ZRT 600's that would run low 6.70's and my ZRT 800 stocker ran low 6.30's and on good days high 6.20's @ 102 MPH all siting at the beams with no run at the lights in 660 foot.

What I'm trying to say is the 1" track IS hurting the SRX down low and that carries thru the whole run. Only thing the short lug track is good for is speed up top.

I see what your saying about your 800 race sled being just over 5mph faster in 660' than a stock srx but how much money did you have in that motor put a fraction of that cash into the srx and see what happens ,what kind of times were you getting out of your 4cylinder 2 stroker?

 

[fourload]

Here are some weights.

 

[KnappAttack]

I see what your saying about your 800 race sled being just over 5mph faster in 660' than a stock srx but how much money did you have in that motor put a fraction of that cash into the srx and see what happens ,what kind of times were you getting out of your 4cylinder 2 stroker?

What? That was a STOCK 800 ZRT drag sled I was referring to, not a modified, but bone stock. Can't touch the engine other than jetting and timing, so ZERO dollars into that engine.

As for my 800 V-Max4 Pro-stocker. 5.20 at 127 MPH in 660 on ice.
8.77 on asphalt 1/4 mile around 145 MPH. Put the 1000 motor in it and it would run 157-158 MPH on the asphalt 1/4 mile.


I had a good buddy that had a good running Thundercat trail sled back in the day. He was very cocky and wanted to race my 800 stock drag sled one day when I was testing on the lake, I told him he wouldn't even get a whiff of my stock 600 let alone the 800. If he wanted a shot at the 800 he'd have to beat my little 600, he laughed and said lets get it on. So we lined up, him on his "fast" Thundercat, and me on my stock 600. Want to talk about cocky, I told him to take off when ever he wanted, he thought I was nuts, I told him I was serious, I'd give him the hit, not starter required, just go ahead and take off whenever he felt ready, so he did, when he took off I grabbed a handful on that little 600 ZRT and drove by him so hard it made his head spin, and just to pour salt in his wound, I let off and let him get up even with me about 250-300 foot out or so, I then grabbed the throttle one more time and drove away from him again a second time, poor fellow! When we turned around and got back to my trailer, I asked him if he still wanted a shot at my 800. LOL! He declined. Big difference between a race sled and a trail sled and he found it out the hard way. Traction and setup is everything, but he was certain his big power would outrun even my 800, but found out the hard way big power means nothing.

 

[74Nitro]

Yes, impressive numbers.
My best time ever on a B stock 2000 SRX 700 was 5.59 / 500ft. That was actually in Ohio, one of the few times I crossed the border to race. I could never match that time in Ontario, my best here was 5.69.
Had it dyno'd at Iantomassi 147.5 hp

 

[JPS]

Thought this was about TRAIL sleds at the shoot out?

 

[74Nitro]

Whoops, I guess we should start a thread to talk about old drag racing memories, stats, etc.

 

[TPAY243]

I completely understand what you guys are saying but there isn't any race sleds showing up at my local watering hole. I'm talking trail sleds with trail studs by the time you ride your stock racing sled there your sharp ice picks will be wore right down to nothing and what will that do for traction and fast et,'s. Im just saying there is always someone faster but stock vs stock nothing out there will run with a SRX or T CAT.

 

[KnappAttack]

Thought this was about TRAIL sleds at the shoot out?

It is. I started the conversation though about the 1 inch track and how it hurts the numbers early in the run and used an analogy in relationship to how poor traction can hurt the machines Performance numbers. If you get traction early in the run all the split times will get better as well, in a nutshell, the 1 inch track is hurting the dragracing prowess the Turbo offers in this application.

The SRX would’ve done better with a bigger track vs the 1 inch in the snow here. Every single time we put a 1 inch track on a sled trying to pick up speed, it has killed it in snow performance for general trail riding in our neck of the woods, and I have to say, we are not in the snow belt or are used to getting a lot of snow every season.

 

[Hammer70]

Yes, impressive numbers.
My best time ever on a B stock 2000 SRX 700 was 5.59 / 500ft. That was actually in Ohio, one of the few times I crossed the border to race. I could never match that time in Ontario, my best here was 5.69.
Had it dyno'd at Iantomassi 147.5 hp

Iantomasi Racing
I’m related to them

 

[ClutchMaster]

What? That was a STOCK 800 ZRT drag sled I was referring to, not a modified, but bone stock. Can't touch the engine other than jetting and timing, so ZERO dollars into that engine.

As for my 800 V-Max4 Pro-stocker. 5.20 at 127 MPH in 660 on ice.
8.77 on asphalt 1/4 mile around 145 MPH. Put the 1000 motor in it and it would run 157-158 MPH on the asphalt 1/4 mile.


I had a good buddy that had a good running Thundercat trail sled back in the day. He was very cocky and wanted to race my 800 stock drag sled one day when I was testing on the lake, I told him he wouldn't even get a whiff of my stock 600 let alone the 800. If he wanted a shot at the 800 he'd have to beat my little 600, he laughed and said lets get it on. So we lined up, him on his "fast" Thundercat, and me on my stock 600. Want to talk about cocky, I told him to take off when ever he wanted, he thought I was nuts, I told him I was serious, I'd give him the hit, not starter required, just go ahead and take off whenever he felt ready, so he did, when he took off I grabbed a handful on that little 600 ZRT and drove by him so hard it made his head spin, and just to pour salt in his wound, I let off and let him get up even with me about 250-300 foot out or so, I then grabbed the throttle one more time and drove away from him again a second time, poor fellow! When we turned around and got back to my trailer, I asked him if he still wanted a shot at my 800. LOL! He declined. Big difference between a race sled and a trail sled and he found it out the hard way. Traction and setup is everything, but he was certain his big power would outrun even my 800, but found out the hard way big power means nothing.

ABSOLUTELY!
If your spinning you ain’t winning!
This year at StGermain they had a bunch of guys side racing. Fella with an F7 properly set up with chisels, was smoking 300hp tuned winders like cheap cigars! He probably was 170hp four sled lengths out off the line.......just sayin.

 

[ClutchMaster]

Snow is a whole different story. Depends on conditions, just like JPS said it got loose. On ice with the right studs that SRX should have no problem going +120 in the quarter