Apex front shocks

[terez]

2013 Apex xtx
Star kit with their revalved skid shocks

Whats a good upgrade for ski shocks?

Gytr clickers
Ohlins
Floats
Elkas

Looking to upgrade
Looking for actual experiences feedback

Thx

 

[Stubbs]

Have you tried having your stockers re valved? Or are you dead set in spending a bunch of money for something else to replace them?

 

[terez]

Have you tried having your stockers re valved? Or are you dead set in spending a bunch of money for something else to replace them?

I sense the sarcasm...
I have plenty of experience in having suspension revalved/setup....sometimes yes U have to pay for significant improvement. Sometimes a revalve/setup of the stockers is a surprising improvement for lil $$

I also recognize the limitations of a shock regardless of its origins.....to be improved upon.
Adjustability is always welcome, as is extra oil volume separate from the shock body where it can cool....the oem shocks don't have either.
Could they be improved on with a revalve and different internal setup...fer sure...but that would be their limits.

What I have very little experience with is Yamaha...and particularly the Apex.
Are the GYTR clicker rezzy shocks a good go?
Are the Ohlins significantly better than the above to justify their price?

I typically am not a fan of Airshocks...but some of my rising buds have expressed that the heavier 4 stroke sleds seem to work well with the Fox evol chambered version?

Again, looking for feedback from Apex riders who have run any of the above shocks and or revalved stockers??


Thanks

 

[maim]

i run gytr clicker shocks on my 2011 apex xtx and it fixed the soft valving problem i was having with the stockers stroking too fast. usually get them refreshed every 2 seasons. installing a set on my 16 once i get them back from cannondale for a refresh.

 

[dmaxx]

i run gytr clicker shocks on my 2011 apex xtx and it fixed the soft valving problem i was having with the stockers stroking too fast. usually get them refreshed every 2 seasons. installing a set on my 16 once i get them back from cannondale for a refresh.

May I ask what settings you are using for your XTX? I bought a pair I need to set up and looking for base setting. Thanks

 

[stevewithOCD]

Hygear dual rate springs.
They will set them up for your weight, riding style & skis.
They will be as good as the best out there for a fraction of the price.

 

[maim]

well i set the springs so that the a arms are almost parallel to the ground. i then set the clickers in the middle of their range. note: if they do not click, shocks need a service. my brother did the fine tuning on a rough section of trail he found and i have not moved them since in 12000 miles of riding other than getting them serviced.

 

[dmaxx]

well i set the springs so that the a arms are almost parallel to the ground. i then set the clickers in the middle of their range. note: if they do not click, shocks need a service. my brother did the fine tuning on a rough section of trail he found and i have not moved them since in 12000 miles of riding other than getting them serviced.

Thanks, they were serviced. Good starting point.

 

[Stubbs]

I sense the sarcasm...
I have plenty of experience in having suspension revalved/setup....sometimes yes U have to pay for significant improvement. Sometimes a revalve/setup of the stockers is a surprising improvement for lil $$

I also recognize the limitations of a shock regardless of its origins.....to be improved upon.
Adjustability is always welcome, as is extra oil volume separate from the shock body where it can cool....the oem shocks don't have either.
Could they be improved on with a revalve and different internal setup...fer sure...but that would be their limits.

What I have very little experience with is Yamaha...and particularly the Apex.
Are the GYTR clicker rezzy shocks a good go?
Are the Ohlins significantly better than the above to justify their price?

I typically am not a fan of Airshocks...but some of my rising buds have expressed that the heavier 4 stroke sleds seem to work well with the Fox evol chambered version?

Again, looking for feedback from Apex riders who have run any of the above shocks and or revalved stockers??


Thanks

The GYT piggy back shocks are great, I’ve run them on several Apex sleds, and likely so close to Ohlins that most guys could never feel the difference anyway. Like you, not a fan of air shocks at all. The only issue with the GYT shocks is the way the adjustability works. There is no separation between high speed and low speed compression, that clicker affects both. If you have a really good valve stack set up in one, you just end up bypassing what you’ve paid a good shock guy to do for you with that clicker. Sometimes simple is better. After all, these are 700lb Apex trail cruisers, not snow cross sleds. A properly set up valve stack is pretty hard to beat on a trail sled, that’s all I was getting at.

 

[terez]

The GYT piggy back shocks are great, I’ve run them on several Apex sleds, and likely so close to Ohlins that most guys could never feel the difference anyway. Like you, not a fan of air shocks at all. The only issue with the GYT shocks is the way the adjustability works. There is no separation between high speed and low speed compression, that clicker affects both. If you have a really good valve stack set up in one, you just end up bypassing what you’ve paid a good shock guy to do for you with that clicker. Sometimes simple is better. After all, these are 700lb Apex trail cruisers, not snow cross sleds. A properly set up valve stack is pretty hard to beat on a trail sled, that’s all I was getting at.

Roger that.
Yes...shocks without separate rebound/compression clickers make it hard to get what you want.
I have been learning that the GYTR are pretty decent shock in quality and function...even stock valving isn't bad??
I am pursuing a set of used ones here on the board.

Thanks for the info Fellas...appreciated.

 

[SumpBuster]

When a friend got his delta box vector gt, the guy told him dont mess with the shock settings as the dealer set it up til his wife could ride it. Sure...first ride ( he was one of the original 5 abductees from the 04 Forum ride on Tug Hill..lol) sucked...horrible! So we went full soft, with various comp. and rebound settings, then worked towards hard, until it handled great....got it so good, I took the floats off my apex and got a pair of gytr''s from Travis.....set them up them up the same, and the difference was amazing.
Gytrs are a nice setup, imo. Once dialed in.

 

[Stubbs]

Roger that.
Yes...shocks without separate rebound/compression clickers make it hard to get what you want.
I have been learning that the GYTR are pretty decent shock in quality and function...even stock valving isn't bad??
I am pursuing a set of used ones here on the board.

Thanks for the info Fellas...appreciated.

Well the GYT shocks have separate rebound and compression clickers, but the rebound clicker setting affects the compression as well as having no hi/low split in the compression clicker itself. The stock valving isn’t awful, and most guys find a sweet spot between the two adjustments that they are happy with. I’m running re-valved stockers in my ‘11 XTX and find them every bit as good as the GYT’s were in the past after I had them dialed in as well. I’m just cheap af and can’t justify spending more money when my set up is working just as well with stock parts.